On Tue, 27 Aug 2019 11:57:30 -0700 (PDT), trader_4
wrote:

On Tuesday, August 27, 2019 at 12:48:38 PM UTC-4, wrote:
On Mon, 26 Aug 2019 22:17:02 -0400, Ed Pawlowski wrote:

On 8/26/2019 7:29 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 26 Aug 2019 10:42:55 -0700 (PDT), trader_4
wrote:

On Monday, August 26, 2019 at 11:29:28 AM UTC-4,
wrote:

Political bull**** snipped

The guy was fighting with the cops.
Should they have bought him a cake?

The guy never punched a cop, never hit a cop, he had no weapons,
he just struggled, refused to be handcuffed and they took him down.
At that point he was face down, several cops were on top of him,
he was no serious threat at that point. And if you, along with a
couple of other cops, can't restrain a guy like that
and deal with him without violating dept policy and using a deadly
chokehold, you should find another job. Now he will.

How long was he supposed to be allowed to "struggle" with police
before he stops the CRIME of resisting arrest?

This was a crime in progress by the biggest guy there who was not
going quietly. In the end he did tho. Mission accomplished.
I hope the cop finds a better job where they don't buy cake for
criminals to get them in the wagon.


Yeah, seems there was a very easy way to prevent this death. Comply and
figure it out later. If there is one of you and two, three, or four of
them, do you think you will win? Maybe he figured the cops would just
say "this guy is really tough, lets just let him go".

I like watching Live PD (A & E network) on weekends. Amazing how
criminals or suspects make it much more difficult that it has to be.

Yeah everyone talks about him saying "I can't breathe" but with his
heart condition, being grossly overweight and asthma I doubt he could
breathe after walking up the steps from the subway.

Funny then that he didn't say that until the chokehold was applied.


He died from cardiac arrest brought on by asthma. If he had simply got
in the ****ing wagon like the law requires when you are arrested he
would be dead of something else by now.


He was fighting
with the cops for 15 minutes

That's a lie. The physical altercation lasted less than a minute.
Pantaleo immediately went to the banned chokehold, didn't even try
anything else, he went for his neck, took him to the ground. There
were four cops there, absolutely no excuse for using the prohibited
chokehold. And it was prohibited for exactly this reason, that there
had been many similar incidents, with perps dying needlessly.

Again you do not understand what was banned and all of the monday
morning quarter backing in the world does not change that.

This was a political maneuver from DiBlasio on down to blame the cops
for some criminal's stupidity.