On Tue, 20 Aug 2019 11:07:18 -0700 (PDT), trader_4
wrote:

On Tuesday, August 20, 2019 at 10:34:01 AM UTC-4, Shadow wrote:
On Tue, 20 Aug 2019 07:11:09 -0700 (PDT), trader_4
wrote:

On Tuesday, August 20, 2019 at 9:16:24 AM UTC-4, Home Guy wrote:
Scientist wrote:

On 8/19/19 10:47 PM, Home Guy wrote:
Half A Billion Bees Drop Dead In Brazil Amid Jump In Pesticide Use

Mon, 08/19/2019 - 21:35

Bee apocalypse has unfolded in four of Brazil's southern states in 1Q19.
More than half a billion bees died earlier this year, in a short period,
experts are suggesting that pesticides are likely to be blamed, reported
Bloomberg.

Pesticides and GMO crops are totally safe. You should spray every
meal with some roundup.

How else are you going to feed 8 billion people?

But no. We don't have too many people...

That piece is another example of what comes out of the one screwball challenge
that your PC is connected to. It tries to draw a connection between Bolsnaro
taking office in January and bees dying in the next three months. Hello?
That would be something, for a president anywhere to be able to change things
so fast, so dramatically, to have that cause and effect be linked.
Like he did something, all the farmers immediately went out and started
spraying new chemicals, the bees immediately died.

Since the COUP in 2015, the environmental agencies were
closed/knackered. So farmers started using just about anything they
could get cheap.
It's why Brazilian exports were recently barred in many EU
countries, the amount of pesticides/herbicides was way over the legal
limit. Limits in the US appear to be more "lenient".
Bolsonaro just took it a step further, and made the use of
previously prohibited chemical agents perfectly legal. Even the
farmers that hesitated in using them before have joined the "trend".
Amazing how much you can destroy in such a short time, if you
have a "plan".

Further, the figure is meaningless without some baseline. What is the normal
amount of bees that are expected to die in that period? This sounds more
like colony collapse disorder, the cause of which still remains a mystery.
But don't let science and facts stand in the way of a good hit piece.

No more butterflies, grasshoppers, beetles and other insects.
Do they suffer from "colony collapse" too ?
PS I live in the country, somewhere near Mato Grosso. I'm an
eye-witness, not a stupid fanatical "ecologist" typing from the safety
of his bedroom in Copacabana.
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Would you like Trump to come down there and help?

Well, if he reciprocates the favor:

https://www.viomundo.com.br/wp-conte...s-21.33.08.png

Bolsonaro's son, now ambassador to the US, on campaign for
Trump.
Nepotism? Nah, Bolsonaro swears his wife cheated on him, so
it's not REALLY his son at all.

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I'm not in favor of uncontrolled use of insecticides and I have no idea
what's actually going on down there. I'm just saying a piece focused on
honeybees and attributing an alleged loss of half a billion bees in
just three months to Bosonaro becoming president, isn't based on science.
Honeybees already have CCD going on around the world and so far, no one
knows what the cause is. But increasingly it also looks like bees have
had the same thing happen during some periods thousands of years ago,
so we probably should not be so quick to indict pesticides as the cause.

Here in NJ, I stopped seeing honeybees several years ago, not sure really
when, but it happened pretty quickly. Went from seeing them all over,
to not very many, to none. The bumblebees were still around, but last
year I noticed they were greatly diminished too. This year I saw just
two small ones. Prior to that we had big ones and enough that you easily
noticed them. And crops aren't being grown here, so the pesticides
sprayed on crops that are among the suspected culprits should not be
here. I suppose it could be chemicals being applied to lawns, but
from what I understand CCD is occurring where there is little insecticide
used at all, there doesn't seem to be a correlation. Which is why the
research is continuing.

Excuse me now, I have to go spray the crabgrass with Acclaim.

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