On Monday, 19 August 2019 22:34:58 UTC+1, wrote:
On Monday, 19 August 2019 13:47:55 UTC+1, whisky-dave wrote:
On Wednesday, 14 August 2019 17:15:05 UTC+1, tabby wrote:
On Wednesday, 14 August 2019 15:56:11 UTC+1, whisky-dave wrote:
On Wednesday, 14 August 2019 12:13:33 UTC+1, tabby wrote:
On Wednesday, 14 August 2019 11:44:25 UTC+1, whisky-dave wrote:
On Wednesday, 14 August 2019 00:09:42 UTC+1, tabby wrote:
On Tuesday, 13 August 2019 16:54:37 UTC+1, dennis@home wrote:
On 13/08/2019 10:06, tabbypurr wrote:

Rebulbable lights last far longer, come in a huge range of looks, and are cheaper.

Lights with fixed LEDs last longer,

the life of one LED only. Duh.

with is ~10 years if they are only on for 12 hours a day.

nope

Yep.

50K hours life Do you know how to work out how many hours in a year ?
ASk google if not. It's 8760. So runnig 24/7/365 that is 50,000/8760=5.7 years so about 5, so running it just 12 hours per day then you could expect to last about 10 years.


Some don't even live in the same property for that long.


come in a huge range of looks, and
are cheaper.


The reason they last longer is because they can be cooled better than
some random fitting retrofitted with a LED bulb.

No dennis. The reason they last less long is
a) the manufacturer couldn't care less as long as it makes a few years

So don;t buy from a cheap manufacturer. The same goes for any product.

whoosh

Well if you can only aford ebay items shipped from china you may well be getting 2nd rate out of spec LED's

Perhaps they are better suited to you though.



b) since it's only on a small % of time they push the LEDs much harder.
BC/ES LEDs OTOH are rated at 15-25k hours

why would they need to push them harder ?
Ah because they are crap quality to start with ?

because they can.

Why shorten their life by pushing them ?

If its only on for brief periods, it's cheaper to use less LEDs & cook em. Cheap is everything.

Only from cheap supliers.



NT

Once again you're an eejit. I should not be surprised.

Only an eejit thinks all LEDs are the same.

quite. Did anyone claim they were, or are you just making stuff up again?

So why believe all LEDs have the same life expectancy.


Even then you have the PSU that will have a shorter life than the LEDs have.

Not usually

Yes if yuo expect LED's to last 5+ years take a look at the capacitors in the encapsulated lights, I had one fail last week, the LEDs still work though, they come on whehn cold but as the LED lamp heats up they start flickering then go off, then a while later they flicker on again this is a sign that the caps are drying out as they do all all capacitors over time.
This LED lamp is in a hallway and has been there since about 2006, so it's not done bad one failed last year similar fashion, all 4 LEDs flash that shows it NOT a single LED that has gone faulty.