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"dennis@home" wrote in message
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On 14/08/2019 11:44, whisky-dave wrote:
On Wednesday, 14 August 2019 00:09:42 UTC+1, wrote:
On Tuesday, 13 August 2019 16:54:37 UTC+1, dennis@home wrote:
On 13/08/2019 10:06, tabbypurr wrote:

Rebulbable lights last far longer, come in a huge range of looks, and
are cheaper.

Lights with fixed LEDs last longer,

the life of one LED only. Duh.


with is ~10 years if they are only on for 12 hours a day.

Some don't even live in the same property for that long.


come in a huge range of looks, and
are cheaper.


The reason they last longer is because they can be cooled better than
some random fitting retrofitted with a LED bulb.

No dennis. The reason they last less long is
a) the manufacturer couldn't care less as long as it makes a few years


So don;t buy from a cheap manufacturer. The same goes for any product.


b) since it's only on a small % of time they push the LEDs much harder.
BC/ES LEDs OTOH are rated at 15-25k hours


why would they need to push them harder ?
Ah because they are crap quality to start with ?



because it suits tabby's argument.

he ignores the often reported failures of LED bulbs due to over heating of
the PSU in the base.

Of course you could buy philips hue bulbs which will have a switch mode
supply in them but they are £20+.


Not with the periodic discounts on amazon.

The cheap ones come with a crappy
capacitor dropper which wont last a year in an unventilated lamp or even
one that has the bulb hanging down.
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