On Friday, 14 June 2019 19:26:13 UTC+1, Rod Speed wrote:
tabbypurr wrote in message
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On Friday, 14 June 2019 13:01:11 UTC+1, wrote:
On Friday, 14 June 2019 12:37:03 UTC+1, tabby wrote:

The repeal of the section 21 right is fairly appalling. Getting bad
news tenants out is too difficult at present, with all sorts of
housing areas being blighted by antisocial behaviour. There is
a very good reason section 21 was introduced.

But it doesn't seem to work, as getting bad tenants out is still too slow
and difficult.

taking S21 away makes it far worse. We have a nationwide problem with
antisocial tenants, one that is so simple to solve. The failure to
understand & solve it is blighting great nubers of people's lives. Now the
govt wants to move in the OPPOSITE direction to any solution.


If a tenant is not at fault, why should they have the risk of eviction?
Having been a private tenant, on 6-month tenancies you spend 2 months out
of every 6 on notice to quit, hoping the landlord will issue another
6-month tenancy at the end, but it's not guaranteed they will (or at what
rent).

Why would any landlord out a tenant who is not a problem?

Because some of them can be a complete pain in the arse.
Ours monstered the landlord using Messenger who was
coming back here for Xmas about some bees that had
got into the roof structure. Stupid cow was too stupid
to use fly spray and demanded that he fix the problem
even tho the real estate told her that it was her problem.

so a tenant that is a problem.

The rental market is very tight indeed here and she was
desperate to rent the house, she was camped out with
her mother with the two teenage kids and dog. The
back fence of the property isnt great, but she was
very happy to move in anyway. Now she keeps
demanding that the fence be replaced with a new one.

Very manipulative woman, there's a reason she needed
somewhere to rent after her marriage broke up. I did
some work on the house that needed to be done and
at times you can damned near cut the air with a knife
with a standoff between her and the kids.

Lls want to get paid & avoid costs, losses & hassles.

And thats why some LLs want to get rid of the most
demanding tenants when they know they can rent the
place to someone else in an instant when the get rid
of the arsehole of a tenant.

in some cases yes. I see nothing wrong with Lls preferring to rent to tenants that don't create a bunch of unnecessary problems.


The paperwork issue you mention there is simply
the direct result of bad government policy.

OTOH there are occasionally situations where the Ll
has a serious financial or family problem and must
regain posesssion. Why should the tenant's wish to
remain in the same house for life trump that? Why
should people go bankrupt or homeless rather
than a tenant get reasonable notice to move?

On the other hand, if they are (genuinely, seriously) at
fault, I say get them out bag and baggage in 14 days.

At least most tenant fees are now illegal in England
(but thanks to a loophole in the drafting of the Tenant
Fees Act 2019 if you are a tenant with exclusive use of
a room in a shared flat with a resident landlord you
are still at risk of fees, if you are a lodger with a
licence in a shared flat you are protected from fees).

Well, they're only superficially illegal. They just get
incorporated into the rent, none of that fiddling
changes the total costs any.

The government has very poor comprehension of the sector.

The problem is that there will always be issues on both sides. No
one world wide has ever found a good solution in centurys now.

But there are some policies that clearly make matters worse, and abolition of section 21 is right up there. We have a nationwide problem with antisocial tenants.


NT