On Wednesday, June 12, 2019 at 11:19:18 PM UTC-4, Xeno wrote:
Prove it.

Try it in Australia. Also, with unlicenced/unregistered installations,
if a fire or similar occurs and the insurance assessor notes unlicenced
work, the claim will be dismissed even if the work had nothing to do
with the cause of the fire.


Then you have a crooked insurance company and you should go straight to
the regulators. You car catches fire in the garage, burns the house
down and they can deny the claim because someone unlicensed put in a
receptacle in the bathroom?

People have made the claim that work you did without a permit, if it
was SHOWN that incompetent work actually CAUSED the fire, would result
in the claim being denied. But every time we ask for some examples,
no one has been able to produce a single one. I know of only one
case where that happened and it was exceptional, with a lot of documented
evidence to support it.

And I don't see anyone here suggesting people do anything illegal,
ie install a solar system without a permit and required inspections.
As a homeowner, most places in the US, you can obtain the permit,
DIY and have whatever work you do inspected.

Look at where the aftermarket ones get to the complex bits, like auto
trans. They leave them out in general.

What is "auto trans"? Auto transfer? IDK what kind of eqpt you have
down there, but here the home solar eqpt doesn't use a transfer switch,
the grid disconnect detection and shutdown are in the inverters.



Also, most aftermarket focus on
step by step operation and miss out on detailed system operation
explanations which is what I like to read *first*.

I thought we were talking about solar INSTALLATION. What operation?
Once it's installed, the installer leaves and there would typically
be a user manual that describes how it works. Not unlike a furnace,
AC, oven or washing machine.



Need that overview
since, as a tradesman for 50+ years, I pretty much know much more than
the basics.
The *detail*, *accurate specifications* and *system overview* is what I
need and manuals like Chilterns don't give me that, especially in these
days of incredible electronic complexity in cars.

I agree that a factory auto manual, if one is available, would be
better in many cases. It could cover much that isn't covered in a
Chiltons. On the other hand, sometimes aftermarket ones have better,
more practical procedures that the factory. For example, BMW's manual
tells you that to do a CV boot replacement, you have to remove the
entire wheel spindle from the vehicle and then do it on the bench.
IDK anyone that does it that way and it can be done with a lot less
work. Today Youtube videos are an enormous source of practical
information, in most cases better than a manual.