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news On Wed, 12 Jun 2019 18:16:18 +0100, Brian Reay
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On 12/06/2019 18:02, Commander Kinsey wrote:
This is insane. Legally (like anyone pays any attention to
these
laws)
you cannot do simple things like fitting an electrical socket
to
your
own home, but you can change the brakes on your car. The
second
one
is
FAR more dangerous to other people!

https://www.mglondon.uk/blog/electri...n-electrician/

While I'm no fan of Part P and I'm not defending it, perhaps
you'd
be
less irate if you checked a decent source.

That one has obvious contradictions. Eg: Look at the entry
referring
to
sockets in both lists. (Item 1 in first list, 3&4 in second
list.)

I guess it's one of those rules that nobody understands.

Plenty do.

You'd have to be pretty dull to read an understand all that crap.

Yes, you are that stupid.

I'm intelligent enough to ignore rules.

A (Scottish, therefore not subject to part P) electrician told
me
you
couldn't even replace a lightswitch in England without a
certificate.

He was wrong.

Possibly,

Absolutely certainly.

I think he's just rather over cautious since he also owns a couple
of
properties he rents out, which have even more stringent bull****
to
contend with.

Not on that they don't.

They do. He needs a safety certificate form a qualified certified
bull**** electrician.

He already has that and doesn't need a new one when he changes a
failed
outlet or switch.

He already has what?

The safety certificate.

For the current state of the flat. If he modifies it, new work isn't
covered.

It isnt new work when the socket or switch is replaced.

Who knows?

Any one can read the regs and anyone like Adam who has done so already.

I don't think anyone understands our ****ed up over the top complicated
nanny state bull****.

Corse plenty do with something like that.

That's what I did when I designed and wired the entire
house and got an electrician to lie that he had done it.

I have a massive great 4x4" square steel post between two patio
doors in the main room which has 8 switches on it, 4 for the inside
lights and 4 for the outside lights. It has a massive 5x3" rectangular
steel section along the top of those patio doors which have the
steel roof beams welded to it. That 5x3" section is actually 0.5"
wall thickness because that's all I could get due to a steel shortage
at that time. The wires for those light switches have to go thru that
so I drilled a number of holes thru that with a massive great drill.
With so many wires, down and back up that you have to have with
light switches, it wasn't feasible to drill and grommet holes for
the complete cables with the outer insulation, so I stripped
off the outer insulation and that goes into short bits of plastic
conduit that's in the holes with just the insulated wires in the
4x4" square tube that's the post. It acts as giant metal conduit
and that's legally fine by the regs. Because there are so many
wires involved, I twisted the wires that are in a particular
cable together so I could easily work out which is which.

That was the only thing the electrician objected to,
he said no electrician would have twisted them.