"Mark" wrote in message
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On Fri, 22 Mar 2019 10:58:54 +0000, John Rumm
wrote:

On 21/03/2019 16:41, Steve Walker wrote:
On 21/03/2019 13:49, Mark wrote:
On Thu, 21 Mar 2019 13:08:38 +0000, Steve Walker
wrote:

On 21/03/2019 08:19, Brian Gaff wrote:
I've noticed a gradual rise to mobile numbers as well over say, the
last
month or so.
some are not spoofed but genuine chancers trying to sell stuff,
usually
some financial service or crap junk from China.

At least some do have an opt out number to hit, and having checked
this
against charges, it seems to be legitimate and worked.

Those opt-outs should be changed to opt-ins - it's very hard to
opt-out
when you've picked up the landline on an only slightly updated, 80
year
old, rotary dial phone!

IIRC the law says that it must be "opt-in" not "opt-out".

The law may say that, but the phone calls, still say something like,
"Press 8 to be removed from our database" and when over a period of 6 or
7 weeks, you have received 10 phonecalls from the same company and don't
have a tone dial on the phone you are answering with, it gets damned
annoying!

Would it be less annoying if you had a tone dial phone, still got the
same 10 calls, even though you pressed 8 every time?

(or more likely got more than 10 calls since you have now verified that
the number they are calling is actually being answered and listened to
by a human, and so is actually more valuable to a cold caller than an
unverified number!)

I have often heard this argument being presented but I am not
convinced. If someone really does not want cold calls then there's no
benefit to any business to keep calling them.

Its more complicated than that given that the is more than
one adult in most households.