On 22/03/2019 10:58, John Rumm wrote:
On 21/03/2019 16:41, Steve Walker wrote:
On 21/03/2019 13:49, Mark wrote:
On Thu, 21 Mar 2019 13:08:38 +0000, Steve Walker
wrote:

On 21/03/2019 08:19, Brian Gaff wrote:
I've noticed a gradual rise to mobile numbers as well over say, the
last
month or so.
Â*Â* some are not spoofed but genuine chancers trying to sell stuff,
usually
some financial service or crap junk from China.

At least some do have an opt outÂ* number to hit, and having checked
this
against charges, it seems to be legitimate and worked.

Those opt-outs should be changed to opt-ins - it's very hard to opt-out
when you've picked up the landline on an only slightly updated, 80 year
old, rotary dial phone!

IIRC the law says that it must be "opt-in" not "opt-out".

The law may say that, but the phone calls, still say something like,
"Press 8 to be removed from our database" and when over a period of 6
or 7 weeks, you have received 10 phonecalls from the same company and
don't have a tone dial on the phone you are answering with, it gets
damned annoying!

Would it be less annoying if you had a tone dial phone, still got the
same 10 calls, even though you pressed 8 every time?

Once I actually got to answer the call with a tone-dial phone, I pressed
8 and received no more calls from them. If the calls simply said "press
8 to remain on our database", I'd have received no more than the first one!

(or more likely got more than 10 calls since you have now verified that
the number they are calling is actually being answered and listened to
by a human, and so is actually more valuable to a cold caller than an
unverified number!)

They know it is a valid number because it has rung. How many valid lines
are not to humans? Even then, the simple act of picking up and saying
"Hello" shows a human has answered. No need for any button presses.

Why waste time re-calling people who have already shown a desire to be
removed from databases and not receive such calls anyway? They are
surely less valuable to a cold caller, as they are LESS likely than most
to turn into a financially rewarding sale!

SteveW