"Robin" wrote in message
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On 14/03/2019 22:15, alan_m wrote:
On 14/03/2019 22:00, PeterC wrote:


For mine I fitted a 2-gang plate, 1 switch for the PIR and 1 for
direct-on.
Rand 3+E, with 1 wire to the lamp.
This gives me a local Off switch, but it could be done with a single
2-way
switch, one way via PIR and the other to the lamp. Needs another way of
fully off.
Note: my PIRs are seperate from the luminaires.


Not an ideal solution. This will be going into a freinds' rented property
where and changes to the electrics cannot be DIY. Changing the external
500W halogen floodlight for a "like for like" 10/20W using the existing
wiring and external junction box may not be noticed

The problem with some LED/PIR units advertised with a manual override is
that the manual override consists of setting the timer control to maximum
making it a simple on/off operation by applying/removing the mains
voltage. What is required is a normal PIR operation that is easily
overridden sometimes.


I recently fitted one of these.

https://www.tlc-direct.co.uk/Products/LTUSF10MCW.html

Too soon for feedback on performance in practice but I was impressed by
the range of adjustments and by the way wireless remote worked from inside
the house (which allows manual override).

Wireless remotes arent a great idea with a rental property.