On Wed, 13 Feb 2019 11:51:57 -0500, John Jackson
wrote:

On 2/13/19 10:47 AM, trader_4 wrote:
On Wednesday, February 13, 2019 at 10:25:39 AM UTC-5, wrote:
On Wednesday, February 13, 2019 at 7:14:52 AM UTC-8, trader_4 wrote:
On Wednesday, February 13, 2019 at 9:26:06 AM UTC-5, Bubba wrote:
On 2/12/19 4:52 PM, Clare Snyder wrote:
On Tue, 12 Feb 2019 14:28:40 -0500, Ed Pawlowski wrote:

On topic since it is a natural gas grill and I will have to hook it up
to a gas line on the lanai.

I ordered this in early January but it was out of stock and the model I
wanted was being updated. It is now back in production and mine is
sitting, waiting for assembly now. I'll be cooking an a couple of days.

If you are not familiar with the brand, Napoleon is to Canada what Weber
is to the US. I had a Weber Summit for a few years at my old house and
since I could have a gas line instead of tanks I upgraded to this. I'm
looking forward to trying the sear station.

https://tinyurl.com/y39qkazb

https://napoleon.com/en/us/grills/pr...ro500rsibnss-3
You won't go wrong with a Napoleon - or even a BroilKing.

I've had a NG Broilking for quite some time now. You WILL find the
heat output of the natural gas unit "doesn't hold a candle to" propane
though - - -



How's the "heat output" when the propane tank runs out?

But seriously, are you saying a 30K BTU propane grill has more "heat output" than a 30K BTU natural gas grill?

If you buy a 30K BTU propane grill and a 30K BTU propane grill, they have
the same heat output. The issue is some can be converted from one fuel to
another by design with a kit or people do it themselves by drilling out
the orifice size. Or people just switch from one fuel to another without
doing anything. In those conversion cases, the BTU output can change
and it does for sure if you change the fuel without doing anything.

"If you buy a 30K BTU propane grill and a 30K BTU propane grill, they have
the same heat output."

Of course. What is your point?


The point was clearly explained in the part you apparently chose to ignore.


Not really. The OP stated "You WILL find the heat output of the natural gas unit 'doesn't hold a candle to' propane though - - -"

I believe that statement to be factually incorrect.


"In theory" they should be the same. This assumes the natural gas
grille actually gets 2.5 times as much natural gas as the propane one
gets propane. I suspect the difference ,at least in my case, has to do
with the pressure of the gas regulator.

Propane generally runs at 11 inches WP.
Natural gas is generally 6.5 to 8 inches WP.

I suspect the jetting on the BroilKing corrects for the fuel density
difference without properly (fully) adjusting for the pressure
difference - just a SWAG on my part but would account for the
difference.

On my generator (tri-fuel) I get 7200 watts on gasoline, 7000 on
propane, and 5200 on natural gas - with the system optimized for the
fuel being used.If my natural gas was running higher pressure I'm sure
I could get more