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On Sun, 10 Feb 2019 14:23:58 +1100, "Rod Speed"
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IBM was broken up tho


No it wasnt. IBM chose to hive off what it
decided werent profitable for them anymore.


Not true at all


We'll see...

IBM split off 7 sectors of it's company into 7 separate operating units


Because that was the fashion at that time. And it wasnt new then
either, IBM was never just one massive great monolith that did
everything from punched card machines, mainframes etc.

and it wasn't until the 90s that they actually started selling them off.


That bit is certainly correct.

The thinking was if the government actually did win and they
were forced to break up, they already would be broken up.


Wrong. It was just the fashion of the time. Hewlett Packard did
it too and so did DEC. So did Xerox and so did AT&T long before
they were broken up. All massive great operations have to do that.

Those sectors were totally independent of each other
and actually bought and sold things between each other.


Sure, but that wasnt due to the threat of being broken up by
govt. And isnt why IBM chose to have a separate operation with
a radically different approach to doing things for the PC either.

The reality was the products were so dissimilar, developed
separately and manufactured separately so there was not
much in common to swap back and forth.


Thats not so true of some parts of IBM like the terminals etc.

In fact in the early 90s when they merged them back together,
there was virtually no economy of scale since virtually none
of the hardware or software were interchangeable and the
training was pretty useless across those platforms too.


Sure, but that was due to the radical diversity of what IBM
chose to get involved in. Of course there is **** all in the
way of interchange ability between punched card equipment
and mainframes. And not much between mainframes and
PCs or even their mid range machines like the Series/1 etc
let alone the 3270 etc.

They had totally different cultures.


Of course they did, mainframes are nothing like
punched card machines, the PC or the PS/2 either.

IBM corporate was just operating as a holding
company, at least in the bookkeeping.


Nothing to do with any threat of breakup.

That was never going to happen.


OK I guess a person living in the belly of the beast does not
know as much as someone on the other side of the planet


Got nothing to do with who lives where.

but that is what they told us at the time.


Those that said that to you didnt have a clue about why IBM did
that. And they had always done that too, most obviously with
the punched card and time machine and typewriter parts of IBM.

I guess the IBM people you worked for in Oz had a different story.


Has nothing to do with any story from any IBM individual,
particularly with what IBM had always done since it moved
on from pure hardware like punched card machines, time
machines and typewriters to computers.

Oh wait the DoJ was not trying to
Prosecute IBM, World Trade in Australia.


Irrelevant to what they actually did in the USA.

They were never going to break up IBM. The most they were
ever going to do was monster IBM into unbundling etc.