Actually I have been looking into all wood construction as I have been in a
lot of steel buildings, and to say the least I am really not as impressed
with them as a good wooden sheathed/ vinyl siding looks. I feel in
appearance of a steel building next to a home with vinyl siding, in other
words, doesn't tie the two structures together as well, in landscaping
concerns. Other things I have questioned is in steel buildings is cold
transfer, being the material, a thin sheet of steel, to me would tranfer any
heat right through the walls. Having worked in a lot of buildings in the
factories I have worked at, with similar constructed I find at best a steel
building is normally too hot in summer month and too cold in the winter. Not
to mention that with a wood sheathing sides I can wrap the building with a
product like Tyvek to help with the R value of the walls logically. As for
myself I believe firmly that a garage should be climate controlled such as a
house. I consider this due to the facts of storage problems I have currently
in my unheated shed. Most every year almost since owning the property I am
about to lose, I have raced to get my spary paints, adhesive products and
other cold perishable items into my house at the begining of cold months.
Much mind you to the serious displeasure of my now ex wife. Though I will
not argue the construction costs of a steel building being material prices
as they are, I would really have to see a building in steel that would meet
my expectations to date. As my main interests are cars and electronics (with
myself a electronics factory worker as well), I would greatly like to heat
this garage plan I have with convection heated flooring (the tubes would be
laid underneath the flooring and run to a boiler system). I would further
include a zone or two under the makings of a concrete driveway making a lot
of shoveling in winter months almost a thing of the past. I have learned
this from some company walk ways I have worked for. Thank you though for the
info on steel buildings I have checked out the site, and it has a lot of
good information.

Thanks E5
"PJx" wrote in message
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Here is a really nice Do-It-Yourself steel building.
http://www.futuresteel.com/default.htm



On Mon, 16 Feb 2004 11:54:14 GMT, "E5I5O"
wrote:

Ok, this is going to seem a little strange, because I am losing my
property,
and any chances of a garage BUT, I have spent the last 14 years trying to
get someone to answer, what I thought, was a simple question, which is as
follows. I had been considering building a garage, but my problem is I
don't
know much about construction practices. So if I were building a pole barn
style garage, would the floor have to be poured first or would it have to
be
poured after the wall framing is up? I built a dirt floor pole barn with
my
father, and I love my dad dearly, but I hate his building practices!
While
building his pole barn, he would cut a bag of cement in half and throw
the
half bag (cement, bag and all) into the hole then set the post on it and
say
that "the cement with harden after a while" as he burried the pole (which
in
this case was a 6X6X16). By the time the sheathing was started on the
roof
we found (towards the end of the project) there was a wedge shaped
section
of the roof that was off by about a foot and we needed to special cut two
sheets of plywood to correct the hole left in the eaves. Like I say my
dad
isn't a good example for constrution, his logic is "Well it's just a
barn"
attitude left me with years of question to follow! I have never agreed
with
the logic that a Pressure Treated post will last 40 years burried in the
ground, as my pressure treated picnic table that he himself built for me,
fell apart just 8 years after being outside in the weather year after
year.
While I feel the floor in this topic would have to be poured first (in my
thinking), then what holds the posts upright in the cement, or for that
fact
how do you get the pole brackets to line up with one another correctly,
so
your walls are still sqaure with one another? I can only imagine that you
would have to work very quickly to level the concrete, then pop your
brackets in the cement that attach to the end of the poles. All while
making
multiple measurements to keep everything square. This to me would
seemingly
be very time consuming at best and with only one person working on a 36'
x
40' floor (as I don't have many friends thanks in part to my ex wife),
towards the end the cement would have started hardening making the
brackets
difficult at best to put in correctly, and level. Though I thank anyone
for
shedding a little light on the topic, I have hopes in the coming year I
may
be in a better position to use the information, after I move from my NY
home
to someplace warmer in climate!

Thanks again, E5