On Wednesday, January 2, 2019 at 4:27:27 PM UTC-5, ZZyXX wrote:
On 1/2/19 6:30 AM, trader_4 wrote:
On Wednesday, January 2, 2019 at 9:18:56 AM UTC-5, Bod wrote:
On 02/01/2019 13:56, trader_4 wrote:
On Wednesday, January 2, 2019 at 5:34:34 AM UTC-5, Bod wrote:
Human feces, overflowing garbage, illegal off-roading, fights over
camping spots and other damaging behavior in fragile areas are beginning
to overwhelm some of the American wests most popular national parks, as
a partial government shutdown left the areas open to visitors but with
few staff on duty.

Unlike shutdowns in some previous administrations, the Trump
administration was leaving parks open to visitors despite the staff
furloughs, said John Garder, the senior budget director of the
not-for-profit National Parks Conservation Association.

€œWere afraid that were going to start seeing significant damage to the
natural resources in parks and potentially to historic and other
cultural artifacts,€� Garder said. €œWere concerned therell be impacts
to visitors safety.€�

Garder added: €œIts really a nightmare scenario.€� .

https://www.theguardian.com/environm...te-yellowstone

Well done Trump. Another stupid stubborn Trump action that only hurts
the US.
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Bod

No, in this case it's well done DEMOCRATS. Trump is only asking for less
than $5 bil for his wall. If DEMOCRATS are not in favor of open borders,
not trying to just stick it to Trump, they would just give him the money.
They lie and claim they are for border security. The $5 bil can't hurt
border security, it can only help it, so WTF is the problem?
And it's $5 bil in a $4 tril budget,
the DEMOCRATS vote for all kinds of pork barrel, BS spending, but suddenly
this small amount matters? It's not about the money, it's about the
DEMOCRATS being in favor of open borders. It's incredible, post 911,
but that's what the modern DEMOCRATS have become. I wonder what they will
be saying if we have another 911 pulled off by people who entered across
the border? It's not just Mexicans and people from Central America.
People from Europe and other areas are regularly caught too. But the
DEMOCRATS just don't care.



Oh, I thought that it was Trump being stubborn...mea culpa :-)

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Bod

Do you really think he's the one being stubborn? He campaigned and won
the election on building the wall. After two years, he's gotten NOTHING
towards it. His mistake was letting it go on this long. He's now asking
for less than $5 bil, in a $4 tril budget! I don't see that as being
stubborn. The Democrats claim they are for border security. OK, let's
say this isn't necessarily the best way to do it. It certainly will
increase border security, not hurt it. So, what's the problem? Two
problems, the Democrats are in favor of open borders and they want to
stick it to Trump.


isn't the usual republican mantra that no program doesn't grow. do you
really think that the 5 Billion is the issue? the real issue is that
once that is spent, there'd be very little reason not to spend
more...and there must be more important issues, like infrastructure

That it's really about the $5 bil is beyond stupid. Both parties spend and spend borrowing more all the time on anything and everything.