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'It's a free-for-all': shutdown brings turmoil to beloved USnational parks
On 1/2/19 6:30 AM, trader_4 wrote:
On Wednesday, January 2, 2019 at 9:18:56 AM UTC-5, Bod wrote: On 02/01/2019 13:56, trader_4 wrote: On Wednesday, January 2, 2019 at 5:34:34 AM UTC-5, Bod wrote: Human feces, overflowing garbage, illegal off-roading, fights over camping spots and other damaging behavior in fragile areas are beginning to overwhelm some of the American wests most popular national parks, as a partial government shutdown left the areas open to visitors but with few staff on duty. Unlike shutdowns in some previous administrations, the Trump administration was leaving parks open to visitors despite the staff furloughs, said John Garder, the senior budget director of the not-for-profit National Parks Conservation Association. Were afraid that were going to start seeing significant damage to the natural resources in parks and potentially to historic and other cultural artifacts, Garder said. Were concerned therell be impacts to visitors safety. Garder added: Its really a nightmare scenario. . https://www.theguardian.com/environm...te-yellowstone Well done Trump. Another stupid stubborn Trump action that only hurts the US. -- Bod No, in this case it's well done DEMOCRATS. Trump is only asking for less than $5 bil for his wall. If DEMOCRATS are not in favor of open borders, not trying to just stick it to Trump, they would just give him the money. They lie and claim they are for border security. The $5 bil can't hurt border security, it can only help it, so WTF is the problem? And it's $5 bil in a $4 tril budget, the DEMOCRATS vote for all kinds of pork barrel, BS spending, but suddenly this small amount matters? It's not about the money, it's about the DEMOCRATS being in favor of open borders. It's incredible, post 911, but that's what the modern DEMOCRATS have become. I wonder what they will be saying if we have another 911 pulled off by people who entered across the border? It's not just Mexicans and people from Central America. People from Europe and other areas are regularly caught too. But the DEMOCRATS just don't care. Oh, I thought that it was Trump being stubborn...mea culpa :-) -- Bod Do you really think he's the one being stubborn? He campaigned and won the election on building the wall. After two years, he's gotten NOTHING towards it. His mistake was letting it go on this long. He's now asking for less than $5 bil, in a $4 tril budget! I don't see that as being stubborn. The Democrats claim they are for border security. OK, let's say this isn't necessarily the best way to do it. It certainly will increase border security, not hurt it. So, what's the problem? Two problems, the Democrats are in favor of open borders and they want to stick it to Trump. isn't the usual republican mantra that no program doesn't grow. do you really think that the 5 Billion is the issue? the real issue is that once that is spent, there'd be very little reason not to spend more...and there must be more important issues, like infrastructure |
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'It's a free-for-all': shutdown brings turmoil to beloved USnational parks
On Wednesday, January 2, 2019 at 4:27:27 PM UTC-5, ZZyXX wrote:
On 1/2/19 6:30 AM, trader_4 wrote: On Wednesday, January 2, 2019 at 9:18:56 AM UTC-5, Bod wrote: On 02/01/2019 13:56, trader_4 wrote: On Wednesday, January 2, 2019 at 5:34:34 AM UTC-5, Bod wrote: Human feces, overflowing garbage, illegal off-roading, fights over camping spots and other damaging behavior in fragile areas are beginning to overwhelm some of the American wests most popular national parks, as a partial government shutdown left the areas open to visitors but with few staff on duty. Unlike shutdowns in some previous administrations, the Trump administration was leaving parks open to visitors despite the staff furloughs, said John Garder, the senior budget director of the not-for-profit National Parks Conservation Association. Were afraid that were going to start seeing significant damage to the natural resources in parks and potentially to historic and other cultural artifacts, Garder said. Were concerned therell be impacts to visitors safety. Garder added: Its really a nightmare scenario. . https://www.theguardian.com/environm...te-yellowstone Well done Trump. Another stupid stubborn Trump action that only hurts the US. -- Bod No, in this case it's well done DEMOCRATS. Trump is only asking for less than $5 bil for his wall. If DEMOCRATS are not in favor of open borders, not trying to just stick it to Trump, they would just give him the money. They lie and claim they are for border security. The $5 bil can't hurt border security, it can only help it, so WTF is the problem? And it's $5 bil in a $4 tril budget, the DEMOCRATS vote for all kinds of pork barrel, BS spending, but suddenly this small amount matters? It's not about the money, it's about the DEMOCRATS being in favor of open borders. It's incredible, post 911, but that's what the modern DEMOCRATS have become. I wonder what they will be saying if we have another 911 pulled off by people who entered across the border? It's not just Mexicans and people from Central America. People from Europe and other areas are regularly caught too. But the DEMOCRATS just don't care. Oh, I thought that it was Trump being stubborn...mea culpa :-) -- Bod Do you really think he's the one being stubborn? He campaigned and won the election on building the wall. After two years, he's gotten NOTHING towards it. His mistake was letting it go on this long. He's now asking for less than $5 bil, in a $4 tril budget! I don't see that as being stubborn. The Democrats claim they are for border security. OK, let's say this isn't necessarily the best way to do it. It certainly will increase border security, not hurt it. So, what's the problem? Two problems, the Democrats are in favor of open borders and they want to stick it to Trump. isn't the usual republican mantra that no program doesn't grow. do you really think that the 5 Billion is the issue? the real issue is that once that is spent, there'd be very little reason not to spend more...and there must be more important issues, like infrastructure That it's really about the $5 bil is beyond stupid. Both parties spend and spend borrowing more all the time on anything and everything. |
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'It's a free-for-all': shutdown brings turmoil to beloved USnational parks
On 1/2/2019 4:27 PM, ZZyXX wrote:
On 1/2/19 6:30 AM, trader_4 wrote: On Wednesday, January 2, 2019 at 9:18:56 AM UTC-5, Bod wrote: On 02/01/2019 13:56, trader_4 wrote: On Wednesday, January 2, 2019 at 5:34:34 AM UTC-5, Bod wrote: Human feces, overflowing garbage, illegal off-roading, fights over camping spots and other damaging behavior in fragile areas are beginning to overwhelm some of the American wests most popular national parks, as a partial government shutdown left the areas open to visitors but with few staff on duty. Unlike shutdowns in some previous administrations, the Trump administration was leaving parks open to visitors despite the staff furloughs, said John Garder, the senior budget director of the not-for-profit National Parks Conservation Association. Were afraid that were going to start seeing significant damage to the natural resources in parks and potentially to historic and other cultural artifacts, Garder said. Were concerned therell be impacts to visitors safety. Garder added: Its really a nightmare scenario. . https://www.theguardian.com/environm...te-yellowstone Well done Trump. Another stupid stubborn Trump action that only hurts the US. -- Bod No, in this case it's well done DEMOCRATS.* Trump is only asking for less than $5 bil for his wall.* If DEMOCRATS are not in favor of open borders, not trying to just stick it to Trump, they would just give him the money. They lie and claim they are for border security.* The $5 bil can't hurt border security, it can only help it, so WTF is the problem? And it's $5 bil in a $4 tril budget, the DEMOCRATS vote for all kinds of pork barrel, BS spending, but suddenly this small amount matters?** It's not about the money, it's about the DEMOCRATS being in favor of open borders.* It's incredible, post 911, but that's what the modern DEMOCRATS have become.* I wonder what they will be saying if we have another 911 pulled off by people who entered across the border?* It's not just Mexicans and people from Central America. People from Europe and other areas are regularly caught too.* But the DEMOCRATS just don't care. Oh, I thought that it was Trump being stubborn...mea culpa :-) -- Bod Do you really think he's the one being stubborn?* He campaigned and won the election on building the wall.* After two years, he's gotten NOTHING towards it.* His mistake was letting it go on this long.* He's now asking for less than $5 bil, in a $4 tril budget!** I don't see that as being stubborn.* The Democrats claim they are for border security.* OK, let's say this isn't necessarily the best way to do it.* It certainly will increase border security, not hurt it.* So, what's the problem?* Two problems, the Democrats are in favor of open borders and they want to stick it to Trump. isn't the usual republican mantra that no program doesn't grow. do you really think that the 5 Billion is the issue? the real issue is that once that is spent, there'd be very little reason not to spend more...and there must be more important issues, like infrastructure You mean the typical procedure of government spending? Come on... It's all about them sticking it to him and very little to do with the money. It's been the agenda since day one. |
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'It's a free-for-all': shutdown brings turmoil to beloved USnational parks
On 02/01/2019 21:27, ZZyXX wrote:
On 1/2/19 6:30 AM, trader_4 wrote: On Wednesday, January 2, 2019 at 9:18:56 AM UTC-5, Bod wrote: On 02/01/2019 13:56, trader_4 wrote: On Wednesday, January 2, 2019 at 5:34:34 AM UTC-5, Bod wrote: Human feces, overflowing garbage, illegal off-roading, fights over camping spots and other damaging behavior in fragile areas are beginning to overwhelm some of the American wests most popular national parks, as a partial government shutdown left the areas open to visitors but with few staff on duty. Unlike shutdowns in some previous administrations, the Trump administration was leaving parks open to visitors despite the staff furloughs, said John Garder, the senior budget director of the not-for-profit National Parks Conservation Association. Were afraid that were going to start seeing significant damage to the natural resources in parks and potentially to historic and other cultural artifacts, Garder said. Were concerned therell be impacts to visitors safety. Garder added: Its really a nightmare scenario. . https://www.theguardian.com/environm...te-yellowstone Well done Trump. Another stupid stubborn Trump action that only hurts the US. -- Bod No, in this case it's well done DEMOCRATS.* Trump is only asking for less than $5 bil for his wall.* If DEMOCRATS are not in favor of open borders, not trying to just stick it to Trump, they would just give him the money. They lie and claim they are for border security.* The $5 bil can't hurt border security, it can only help it, so WTF is the problem? And it's $5 bil in a $4 tril budget, the DEMOCRATS vote for all kinds of pork barrel, BS spending, but suddenly this small amount matters?** It's not about the money, it's about the DEMOCRATS being in favor of open borders.* It's incredible, post 911, but that's what the modern DEMOCRATS have become.* I wonder what they will be saying if we have another 911 pulled off by people who entered across the border?* It's not just Mexicans and people from Central America. People from Europe and other areas are regularly caught too.* But the DEMOCRATS just don't care. Oh, I thought that it was Trump being stubborn...mea culpa :-) -- Bod Do you really think he's the one being stubborn?* He campaigned and won the election on building the wall.* After two years, he's gotten NOTHING towards it.* His mistake was letting it go on this long.* He's now asking for less than $5 bil, in a $4 tril budget!** I don't see that as being stubborn.* The Democrats claim they are for border security.* OK, let's say this isn't necessarily the best way to do it.* It certainly will increase border security, not hurt it.* So, what's the problem?* Two problems, the Democrats are in favor of open borders and they want to stick it to Trump. isn't the usual republican mantra that no program doesn't grow. do you really think that the 5 Billion is the issue? the real issue is that once that is spent, there'd be very little reason not to spend more...and there must be more important issues, like infrastructure Not only that, Capt Bull**** promised that Mexico *will* pay for the wall. What happened to that! If that were true, he'd not be demanding this 5 billion now. -- Bod |
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'It's a free-for-all': shutdown brings turmoil to beloved USnational parks
On Thu, 03 Jan 2019 05:10:27 -0000, Bod wrote:
On 02/01/2019 21:27, ZZyXX wrote: On 1/2/19 6:30 AM, trader_4 wrote: On Wednesday, January 2, 2019 at 9:18:56 AM UTC-5, Bod wrote: On 02/01/2019 13:56, trader_4 wrote: On Wednesday, January 2, 2019 at 5:34:34 AM UTC-5, Bod wrote: Human feces, overflowing garbage, illegal off-roading, fights over camping spots and other damaging behavior in fragile areas are beginning to overwhelm some of the American wests most popular national parks, as a partial government shutdown left the areas open to visitors but with few staff on duty. Unlike shutdowns in some previous administrations, the Trump administration was leaving parks open to visitors despite the staff furloughs, said John Garder, the senior budget director of the not-for-profit National Parks Conservation Association. Were afraid that were going to start seeing significant damage to the natural resources in parks and potentially to historic and other cultural artifacts, Garder said. Were concerned therell be impacts to visitors safety. Garder added: Its really a nightmare scenario. . https://www.theguardian.com/environm...te-yellowstone Well done Trump. Another stupid stubborn Trump action that only hurts the US. -- Bod No, in this case it's well done DEMOCRATS. Trump is only asking for less than $5 bil for his wall. If DEMOCRATS are not in favor of open borders, not trying to just stick it to Trump, they would just give him the money. They lie and claim they are for border security. The $5 bil can't hurt border security, it can only help it, so WTF is the problem? And it's $5 bil in a $4 tril budget, the DEMOCRATS vote for all kinds of pork barrel, BS spending, but suddenly this small amount matters? It's not about the money, it's about the DEMOCRATS being in favor of open borders. It's incredible, post 911, but that's what the modern DEMOCRATS have become. I wonder what they will be saying if we have another 911 pulled off by people who entered across the border? It's not just Mexicans and people from Central America. People from Europe and other areas are regularly caught too. But the DEMOCRATS just don't care. Oh, I thought that it was Trump being stubborn...mea culpa :-) -- Bod Do you really think he's the one being stubborn? He campaigned and won the election on building the wall. After two years, he's gotten NOTHING towards it. His mistake was letting it go on this long. He's now asking for less than $5 bil, in a $4 tril budget! I don't see that as being stubborn. The Democrats claim they are for border security. OK, let's say this isn't necessarily the best way to do it. It certainly will increase border security, not hurt it. So, what's the problem? Two problems, the Democrats are in favor of open borders and they want to stick it to Trump. isn't the usual republican mantra that no program doesn't grow. do you really think that the 5 Billion is the issue? the real issue is that once that is spent, there'd be very little reason not to spend more...and there must be more important issues, like infrastructure Not only that, Capt Bull**** promised that Mexico *will* pay for the wall. What happened to that! If that were true, he'd not be demanding this 5 billion now. Probably a bunch of sissy liberals preventing him from bombing the infidels south of the border. |
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