On Sun, 23 Dec 2018 16:54:27 -0500, J. Clarke
wrote:

On Sun, 23 Dec 2018 16:43:55 -0500, Clare Snyder
wr

Still haven't said what kind of Volvo.

And I'm not going to since you're making an ass of yourself.

WHo's making an ass of themselves by not giving details and making
somewhat rediculous claims????

Put up or shut up.

My brother's Volvo outweighed a lincoln too - but it had a 984 cubic
inch D16 under the hood that weighed a ton and a half without
transmission or fluids and put 600 HP to the twin screw rear end..

ANd without a load it was USELESS in snow too - - -

As for limited slip, Volvos are supposed to be good in snow, if they
need limited slip why don't they have it? And the Lincoln did not
have it.

NO car is good in snow without snows - and a second gen or newer Supra
in particular. Don't try BSing me. I was Toyota Service Manager - and
the low profile tires they came with were less than useless in snow
(Dunlop performance radials) They were like 4 flying saucers strapped
to the corners of the car. With narrow snow tires they handled and
went pretty good.

Which tells you how bad the damned Volvo was.

What Volvo? and further to that, what tires? FWD or RWD or AWD? All
Season or Performance Touring tires???

The lincoln had enough weight on the rear wheels to make any tire
grip at least a LITTLE bit - - -
WHen I was rallying the Volvo 242 was right up there with the 2002
Bimmers and the 510 Datsuns for 2wd (even winter) rallying. (I
successfully campaigned a Renault R12 Fwd - the lowest powered car on
the circuit at the time) A good set of Haks or Metzlers made them into
pretty darn good "rubber on ice" ice racers too - - -

And I'm sure if I just jacked the Volvo up and put a Jeep underneath
it it would have been just fine. I'm not talking about a damned
race-prepped special, I'm talking about showroom stock.

The ice racers are "showrioom stock" and the rallye cars were
"unprepared" - meaning NO MODIFICATIONS beyond changing shocks and
sway bars. Mine was BONE STOCK. All you could change beyond that was
your rubber - and it had to fit the factory sheet metal.

Corvettes are also extremely poor in snow with the stock "steam
rollers" on them. (and up here they virtually ALL get taken off the
road around Thanksgiving. ANyone with the bucks to drive a vette has
the money, if not the brains, to also have a "winter beater" - often
an Audi Quatro or aAWD BMW (if not a 4WD Sierra or an old H3)

Which again tells you how bad the damned Volvo was.

Still no indication what kind of Volvo - or even what Supra (there
were at least 4 VERY DIFFERENT supras) or what 'Vett either for that
matter - C1 to C7 there have been a LOT of changes -- - -

If you drove a motorcycle when you
couldn't move with a Volvo you've got ROCKS in your head - and below
your belt.

Yep, it took big ones. But once it was out of the parking lot and
onto the plowed and salted road it was fine.

My bikes were always put away sometime about Thanksgiving and they
stayed away 'till at least Easter.

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