On Thu, 13 Dec 2018 20:02:51 -0000, "Jim GM4DHJ ..."
wrote:

when is the last time anybody has seen a rag joint in a car?

Not seen one with the interleaved rubber and fabric in use for quite a while now
I've still got a brand new one at least 25 years and maybe a decade older sat in
a factory box in the garage. Plus several knackered ones on old Triumph / Lotus
racks acquired over the years

The safer, and indeed 'failsafe' replacement is far more common on the road

https://rimmerbros.com/ItemImages/Large/FAM1718.JPG

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