On 08/12/2018 09:31, Robin wrote:
On 08/12/2018 08:46, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 08/12/2018 08:25, Thomas Prufer wrote:
On Sat, 8 Dec 2018 06:13:38 +0000, ARW
wrote:

Try doing a small extension in Wales.

https://gov.wales/topics/planning/bu...-fire/?lang=en


It killed the building trade and England might be next.

And I thought the Germans were specialists in over-regulation.

Holy carp. Sprinkler mandaatory in welsh new builds? Is that REALLY
what yhye said?


Yep, first country in the world to do so.Â* It wasn't cost-effective by
the usual criteria[1] with each life saved costing over £m6.Â* But that
wasn't public expenditure.Â* So what's not to like in that for Ministers
when the public think it's some other bugger's money that pays for it
(and in Wales are very often right)?

The Scottish government have promised to make them compulsory in all new
social housing.Â* (IIRC some councils in Scotland do so already.)

Westminster Ministers - to their credit - have so far resisted pressure
to follow Wales in England.Â* But it doesn't help when coroners call for
"Immediate and positive consideration of the compulsory inclusion in the
design, planning and building phases for residential properties..."
with, as usual, no mention of the costs and opportunity costs.

And if anyone's considering DIY, AIUI a tank in the loft and a pump are
almost obligatory as water companies won't guarantee high enough mains
pressure.


[1]
https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/nor...-wales-2662917


The AICO rep that presented my installation course suggested that one
reason the English have not gone down this route is due to the lobbying
of house builders.

--
Adam