On Thu, 29 Nov 2018 00:00:34 -0500, wrote:

On Wed, 28 Nov 2018 23:38:58 -0500, Clare Snyder
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On Wed, 28 Nov 2018 22:51:45 -0500, wrote:

On Wed, 28 Nov 2018 20:18:35 -0500, Clare Snyder
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On Wed, 28 Nov 2018 16:41:57 -0500, micky
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In alt.home.repair, on Wed, 28 Nov 2018 10:21:13 -0800, Oren
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On Wed, 28 Nov 2018 12:57:41 -0500, wrote:

When I see one opposite of the rest, I assume it is on a switch.

+1

I have several outlets with pin up. They are switched for table lamps.
One side is hot and the other switched. Often marked by an adhesive
dot sticker.

I like that system, half hot, half switched.

I asked the electrician to put the switched half pin up and the hot half
pin down, but he refused. I had to hire another electrician.
If youlook at an duplex outlet you will see it is impossible to
install the switched side different than the unswitched side - - -

Unless you use one like this and they do make them in the standard
style. (ground up no matter how you install them) in a vertical
orientation. Neutral up in a horizontal orientation.

https://www.doityourself.com/forum/a...ds-legrand.jpg


Specialized double GFI unit _ they make the non GFI units too -
Legrand Adorne line - Kinda strange Euro look. Not cheap - the basic
non-GFI unit is about 6 bucks plus plate. - One will always be ground
down or neutral left.

My guess is getting replacements 5 or 10 years from now will prove
virtually impossible. I don't see them catching on in any big way -
but I've been wrong before - - -

For some reason a couple of the big companies seem to like stocking
obscure stuff and it seems to move.
Just because you don't see something at Home Depot doesn't mean you
can't get one. These days you don't even need to find an electrical
wholesaler who wants to screw with your tiny order.
It is usually on Amazon Prime.
It's the kind of crap you see on the shelves at Lowes and all the
hoity toity "Boutique" kitchen shops - - -

Not at Home Despot because Lowes has nailed it down as "Theirs"