Brian Gaff wrote

Sorry I'm not convinced by this at all, unless somebody has made a miracle
material that can totally insulate the bricks, the device will always lose
heat at a low level

Yes, but its obviously better if it has a fan
that only runs when the room needs heat.

and thus be no more efficient.

It clearly is more efficient if it only adds heat to
the room when the room needs to be warmer.

Most of my heaters are close to a standard supply as well, so one assumes
a bit of creative routing of the cable would suffice, but I hope mine
continue to function for a long time! I have two big ones and one small
one in my house and that is all it really needs.

I have one, but don’t use it any more. I use a heated throw instead.

"harry" wrote in message
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On Monday, 13 August 2018 14:20:51 UTC+1, wrote:
I am losing the will to live. I have looked across the internet and found
almost nothing expect the usual suspects over and again - all with their
eco agendas.

The problem is simple ( or should be)
a) I have a night storage heater on E7 that has given up the ghost. It
needs replacing

That should be simple enough, I have done similar things before - get a
new equivelent heater and OH connects it in to existing system

But
b) it seems that the ruddy EU ( no the **** me off - it seems they
brought this in but it was not widely advertised. if it had been I would
have got new heaters all round last year. The new ones are almost three
times as expensive and appear to need new wiring too.) They have changed
the rules and now you have to get an eco friendly storage heater which
sings and dances, costs twice as much and I dont think will run on my
system but I cannot find out

so
c) Is it possible to get/ run one of these new LOT20 storage heaters on
a night only supply? It seems they all seem to now need a duel supply -ie
a second electric point to run some fan or other daytime..... I dont
need that! Is it possible to connect them without conecting in the day
time socket - or can it be connected to a standard socket with plug so I
can switch it off via the plug switch?

None of these things are being answered anywhere on the internet. They
just keep pounding away with other things..... some of us use E7 because
there is nothing else and we dont want LPG or oil.

Has anyone any experience of fitting and using one of these new fangled
storage heaters? There must be others out there with E7.

Further has anyone found a simple one that doesnt use a ruddy wi fi
system and all singing and dancing "open window " detection to pump up
the heat , even though you might have an open window because you want
one?

I am currently looking at buying a second hand " refurbished" old version
on ebay. All I want is a simple night storage heater replacement for
the bedroom.

I would be grateful for sensible replies. I am sure there will be some.
I will ignore the trolls, thanks.

New storage heaters have a controlled heat output so you don't get heat
when you don't want it.
This is done by means of a fan than wafts the stored heat out.
The fan needs an extra permanent supply (ie not off the time switch).
We have had them for decades, now it seems they are to be the only ones
allowed.
There are significant savings money/energywise