"Steve Walker" wrote in message
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On 02/08/2018 16:05, Michael Chare wrote:
On 02/08/2018 11:29, Rod Speed wrote:

And our VDSL2 service doesn't even allow a landline at all, basically
because doing it that way gets better modem synch rates.


Who supplies that service AAISP?

No phone calls in a power cut then!

That has always been the big one and I understood that the need to make
calls in an emergency was the reason that they weren't allowed to switch
landlines to pure fibre years ago.

Assuming that both the VOIP phone and router need to be powered to make
calls, how are they getting around this?

Our FTTP service has a backup battery in the router and you
can plug a non powered handset into that router if you want.

Especially when a severe weather event could take power out to isolated
houses or whole villages for days, in conditions where the residents can't
travel to get help.

But the mobiles will work for a while in that situation.

A backup mobile isn't the answer either,

Corse it is.

because many elderly people would make so few calls on it that it would
get disconnected,

Trivial to mandate that those can't be disconnected.

And there is no automatic disconnect with the
mobile service aldi provides here. You just have
to top it up once a year for peanuts. You dont
have to make any calls at all. $5 a year in fact.

it may well be flat

Trivial to leave it on the charger all the
time like you do with a cordless phone.

and many of the mobile base stations have no backup power themselves
anyway!

The obvious fix for that is to fix that.

I did think that it would make sense to start moving to fttp and voip over
time, but with the fibre being bundled with copper. The copper could be
used purely to provide emergency power (perhaps with a very low drain,
automatic switching, router purely for phone calls during power cuts)

Stupid to maintain the entire copper network back to
the exchanges just for the very rare emergency calls
on a wide area power cut. Makes a lot more sense
to add backup batterys to the mobile bases instead
or include a backup battery in the fibre modem.

or the copper could still provide a backup analogue connection - quality
of line being less important.

We are scrapping the entire copper system
back to the exchanges, and the exchanges
too. And already have backup batterys in
all the mobile bases.

Thats the only sensible approach.