"michael adams" wrote in message
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"tim..." wrote in message
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"tim..." wrote in message
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"Nick Odell" wrote in message
news Apologies if this has already been discussed and I missed it.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/201...tricity-every/


the meters might

I can't for one minute seeing the politician allow it.

A tariff which changes without notice cannot possibly change user
behaviour, and that
is the only possible reason for having differential charging.

Who says ?

which bit?

The idea that these things will allow customers to save money by
changing their
behaviour is simply marketing bull**** to persuade people to accept the
things, and always has been, from day one.

That's completely different from the idea that dynamic pricing persuades
people to change their behaviour

You spoke of "differential charging" above. And you claimed that the only
reason suppliers would introduce "differential charging" would be to
change user behaviour. Which is clearly impossibe.

Corse its not impossible with some appliances
like dishwashers and washing machines.

Whereas I suggested *another* reason why suppliers would want to introduce
"differential charging".

Now you've decided you want to talk about "dynamic pricing" instead.


Why (other than because you can) would a supplier justify wanting to use
dynamic pricing?

That was explained above. The supplier will be buying electricity at a
constantly changing spot price reflecting both the current supply
situations as generating capacity goes on and off stream and current
demand.

At the moment however the consumer pays a fixed price with maybe
lower tarrifs to take up the slack in the system at periods of low
demand.

If the supplier can adjust his price according to the spot price he
has to pay then even with a 1/2 hr time lag this should eventually
bring down demand. So he can buy at a lower spot price when
there's less demand . Consumers don't have to sit staring at the meter
they simply view the price changes retrospectively on their
puters. Maybe days later. So they can eventually work out that maybe
6-7 in the evening might be a bad time to do something. Which will
either reduce prices, increase profits or both. It simply makes
for a more efficient market.

But this is entirely different from the single-price proposition
(i.e bull****) in the original marketing. Whereby it was suggested
that by constantly monitoring their smart meter customers would be
switching stuff off rather than leaving it on standbye, boiling
less water in the electric kettle etc etc Basically the sort of
tightarses who will be attracted to that sort of thing haven't
been sitting around for years, waiting for smart meters to
appear on the scene.