On Wednesday, 20 June 2018 13:18:18 UTC+1, NY wrote:
"whisky-dave" wrote in message
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On Wednesday, 20 June 2018 11:10:24 UTC+1, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
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whisky-dave wrote:
Before they go green, either yellow or amber is shonw which indicated
proceed with caution which you are leagly able to do BEFORE the light
goes green so WTF are you talking about jumping green lights is this
some sort of sex thing you aussie do while the sheep rest.

The amber before green does not mean move off. It means prepare to move
off when the green light shows.

Hence a green light can not be jumped.

The fact that some people *do* cross the line before the green light shows
that it (physically) can be jumped,

NO it can't in the same context of jumping a red light.
if you pass the red light which is beyond the line indicated then it means you have crossed that line while the light is still red which is illegal.
Crossing the same line while the traffic light is green is NOT illegal so I don't see how the term jumped can be used if the term jump is to mean breaking the law.
But then again every single time I jump the lights not caring what colour they decide to be as a pedestrain.



even though it must not be. That assumes
that you interpret "jump a green light" as meaning "set off before the green
light appears",

which I don't.
If I did I'd have to assume that jumping a red light would mean moving before the red light appears which is actually legal and even encouraged isn't it.

subtly different from "jump a red light" which means "set
off after the red light appears and after the green has disappeared".

which is illegal.





Of course, all of this discussion does not apply to cyclists,

Does any law apply to cyclists in their world ?

some of whom
don't just go through lights immediately after they have turned amber/red or
before they have turned green but also at *any* stage while the lights are
red, have been for some time and are not likely to turn green any time soon.
Some cyclists seem to think that they are allowed to go through red lights
and then expect other road users (who have a green light) to give way to
them. Or am I being cynical?

Sounds like you've watched such things.


I cycle as I drive, obeying all the same rules of stopping at non-green
lights or at zebra crossings with people on. Sadly I appear to be in the
minority.

I agree with that.

But what does the word jump mean in this context ?

There's nothing wrong with moving off when the GREEN light is lit and you may also cross the line.
There's nothing wrong with moving off when the AMBER light is lit providing you do so with caution, and you may also cross the line.
The ONLY colour light that may move but NOT cross the line is RED.