"StoneD" wrote in message
...

Warning.
If they shutdown and locked the system when they found the cracks in
the heat exchanger, then you are dealing with pure crooks. It is all
a ruse to make you buy a new system from them.


That is the single worst advice I have ever seen...even from a hack like
Stormin Mormon



WRONG.

It is the LAW in most EVERY jurisdiction.

This is what should happen:

Proof of the leaking, or cracked heat exchanger is given...then, the unit is
locked, or made inoperateble in whatever fashion the local code enforcement
prefers.
Code enforcement officials, meaning, the guy that can legally tell you to
get the hell out of your home and condem it till its fixed and there isnt a
thing you can do about it, is called, and made fully aware, and a red tag,
not always red in color, but what we call a red tag is put on the furnace
and then, and ONLY then, options are discussed.

Now...there is only ONE option for a leaking and cracked heat exchanger:

Stop the damn leak.

IF its a Goodman, another POS unit, that used to use the PLASTIC caps in the
80% units, that fell out all the time, (hint of a REAL quality unit there)
then it can be REPAIRED. IF its a Trane that had the leaking seal on top, it
can be repaired, if its got a split in the clam, or the units got holes, or
cracks in it, then you have two options depending on age, and parts that can
be had...replacement of the heat exchanger, or unit itself.



Never, never, never call them back and tell everyone you know to
never use that company of crooks again.

So..when they call the local inspector out and the City or County guy asks
you AND the tech where in hell is the lock out on the gas line..what ya
gonna do when HE puts one on?

I locked one out about a month ago. The renters raised unholy hell....and
after being threatened with a beating, I just called the county.
They honestly did not believe I had that power, even when they were shown
that in the "Big Red Book", AKA, State Contractor Law.
He came out, looked around, found about 10 other non code issues, and told
them that the Sherriff was on his way and that the home was condemed till
the extreme violations were corrected.
Sorry..that can happen, and yes, it was a rats nest, and yes, we did the
work, but not for as much as you think, and the owner, another contractor
that had access to over 40 other AC guys, used us because he knew we would
do it right...even is he could not keep his rental up....that simple.
All our lockouts are worded that WE do NOT have to replace the unit, and we
do NOT have to repair it, but WE have to remove the lock.
That allows the customer to pick who he wants, and no, we dont get every job
that we lockout, and lockouts are more rare than you think.



Now, if they ran the system and checked the heated rooms with a
carbon monoxide detector and it checked over the allowable limit, then
gave you some options on repairs, that is another story.


Sorry...sir..the options in some areas are, Lock it out, or get fined, and
lose your licence...thats a pure fact.
Lawsuits....(shudder) what if he allows the unit to run, and someone
actually gets hurt, or sick in this sue happy enviroment?
No...sorry...lock it out, and be safe...on BOTH sides.




Stone











On Mon, 22 Dec 2003 21:59:41 GMT, "Frontier"
wrote:

Well, the repair people came out today and found a number of cracks in
the
heat exchange. What was happinging was that one of the cracks was right
by
the overheat switch/sensor and the heat escaping kept tripping it.

Thanks to all those who added comments.


"Frontier" wrote in message
...
I am having trouble with keeping the heat on in our home. The heat
will
come on, as normal, but the blower and heat will shut down before
reaching
the temperature at which the thermostat is set and the thermostat
continues
to flash "heat" as if it thinks the unit is still on. This normally
happens
when the outside temperature gets below about 20 F.

We called in the heating people and they determined that the valve was
shot
from doing a test that showed that little gas was getting to the
furnace.
This was right after Thanksgiving. We had a warm spell and it seemed
to
be
working OK, but the last few days have been colder and it is happening
again.

The odd thing is that sometimes it will run for hours and work fine, as
happened last night. I got up during the night to find the temperature
in
the house at 64. I turned the heat off (to reset the thoermostat) and
back
on and it ran for a number of hours.

Just a few minutes ago I turned it on after replacing the filter, and
it
ran
for about 10 minutes before shutting off, with "heat" still flashing on
the
thermostat.

Any ideas?