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On Thu, 26 Apr 2018 15:07:57 +0100, Clare Snyder wrote:

On Thu, 26 Apr 2018 01:17:54 -0400, wrote:

On Wed, 25 Apr 2018 21:44:01 +0100, "Jimmy Wilkinson Knife"
wrote:

Wile it is true that we typically have double outlets, both outlets
are fed by a single pair wires coming into the box. There are some
exceptions where there are two pairs of wires, each connected to one
of the outlets. This is usually done so that one outlet can be
controlled by a switch and the other is not, and each is often
connected to a separate circuit.


Code does NOT allow them to be fed from separate circuits unless the
breaker is "tied" - in other words either an edison circuit, or a
"virtual edison" circuit with the neutrals paired at the breaker


Why can you not have seperate circuits?

Why on earth would you need to wire it up like that to have a seperate switch? I have double outlets in my house in the UK, with a single pair of wires feeding it. There's a switch on each one, and I alsdo find it odd ou don't have switches on every outlet. The UK used to have no switches on outlets, but they're all switched now.


The switch is on the wall by the door to turn on the light. I have
seen those switched outlets in New Zealand but who wants to reach
behind the couch to flip the switch?


Had switched outlets (the big nasty old British style) in my house in
Zambia.

MISERABLE things!!!!!

Aparently the thinking is with higher voltage you get arcing when
disconnecting the load - but nothing prevents pulling the plug or
plugging it in with the switch on - so that's kinda lame.


No, it means you can turn things off at the wall you don't want a pet or child to turn on by mistake.

Also kinda stupid to use blades about 8 times as heavy as the blades
on a 15 amp 120 volt plug - the darn things are MASSIVE.


Probably to stop them bending. I've got a couple of battery chargers here I bought which are American pins. I could bend one with two fingers.

Same thing in Burkina Faso - but there you get to "pick your poison"
as there does not appear to be any "standard" - some places use French
style euro plugs, some use South African, some use british, and some
use American - and it can be 240 or 120 volts, 50 or 60 hz because
there is a lot of local private power generation.


That's only the 2nd time in my entire life I've hear of Burkina Faso, the other was when I was stamp collecting as a child.

Typically we will have a ceiling light controlled by a switch by the
door and also some receptacles on a switch so you can user table lamps
that are controlled by a wall switch.


ANd very often 3 way switches - or even 4 way - one at rach entrance
to a room. My dad used to put 4-ways in master bedrooms - one at the
door and one at each side of the bed - - -


I use PIRs. There are zero light switches in my house. I walk in the room and the light comes on. The cats and parrots can activate them aswell.

The double outlets are usually
manufactured with copper bands joining the two connecting points on
the sockets. This blows your theory right out of the water. You
obviously don't have a clue asa to how our system works, whether or
not you like the way it works.

I'm only repeating what I've heard, that they have -120, 0, +120V to double outlets. An American told me this long ago.


That is really a Canadian thing. They like having two 120v circuits on
one yoke in the kitchen. It is not that common in the US.


Really handy to be able to run the toaster and the coffeemaker or
kettle side by side without running cords across the contertop - and
without tripping the breaker or blowing the fuse - - -


But American kettles are only a few hundred watts :-)
And most of them still use the ****ing stove to heat water.

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