On 3/7/2018 10:38 AM, Leon wrote:
On 3/7/2018 8:02 AM, Jack wrote:
On 3/6/2018 10:25 AM, -MIKE- wrote:
On 3/6/18 8:24 AM, Jack wrote:
On 3/5/2018 1:07 PM, Leon wrote:
On 3/5/2018 8:12 AM, Jack wrote:
On 3/3/2018 3:12 PM, -MIKE- wrote:
On 3/3/18 12:50 PM, woodchucker wrote:
On 3/3/2018 11:49 AM, Leon wrote:
Apparently the new line of HF tools, Hercules, has got it's sites
set
on the DeWalt DWS780. But is the price difference to enough to go
from a 3 year warranty on the DeWalt to a 90 day warranty for the
Hercules? Will anyone pay $399 for a HF SCMS?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JfLR-FQGgGU
And the claimed "high efficiency dust collection" apparently means
that it will collect dust on the outside of the dust bag rather
than
in the bag.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_c...&v=fLCrCz1_2rc
No, Watch AVE's teardown of the hercules drills. Crap.
Love that guy!
I'm watching it, now.
Me too. He speaks my language too. He likes Hilti tools I think.
Not at all impressed with the festering tools, (considering the
price) He said the festering TS 55 is not designed for continuous
use
and abuse that a contractor would need.
And yet pros have been using the Festool track saws for decades..
Pro's have also been using Harbor Freight junk, so what?
I'd bet you would be more likely to see the pros using HF than
Festools.
Irrelevant to the context as to holding up to continuous use.
I would put good money on *any* Festool power tool lasting longer than
*any* HF power tool in side-by-side test.
Considering the price difference, it's not a difficult bet to make.
The point of course is just because some pro somewhere uses a
festering tool does not prove anything because pro's (more of them
probably) also use HF tools. That doesn't mean HF tools are super
durable any more than it proves festering tools are. AVE's review
indicates festering tools are good, but has a number of surprising
weaknesses, considering the cost.
Jack, if some pro some where was the only one using Featool, like you
are painting the picture, Festool would not be in business.
Yes there are a lot of people that are not pro's that buy Festool these
days, they can afford the top end products whether they need them or
not. But Prior to about 12 years ago Festool, back some 50 or so years,
relied mostly on the pro.
It just so happens that they found that there was a market for people
that still wanted top quality tools and that also happened to be
hobbyists.
I humorously call them dude ranchers. Sometimes I even make myself laugh.
I would say that I am some what of a pro, not full time pro, but I can
easily afford Festool products. And I cannot afford to build as much as
I do if I did not sell the vast majority of what I build. My material
costs far exceeds my tools costs. I have been seriously wood working
for 40 years and as a hobby since I was 10. I have a very good idea of
what brand tools to buy. FWIW many of my tool purchases, since I
bought my first Festool 11 years ago, have not been Festool. So you
can't say that I am one of the ignorant that believes that every tool
that a tool manufacturer makes is going to be top notch, that is just
not a reality. BUT I have yet to have to replace any of my Festool
tools which is not what I can say about any of the other brands that I
have bought. For certain the sanders have out lived my PC sanders by a
margin of 2 to 1, so far, and the Festool Sanders do more than my old PC
sanders.
As far as the click bait guy goes you can believe every thing he says
since you seem drawn to a person that uses words that you probably
cannot find in a dictionary. If you go to his YouTube videos and Click
on the Dirty Secrets of a $1000 saw, "you" and "I" have both been
victims of Click Bait. The saw in question costs no where near $1K,
Today years later after annual price increases, the saw sells for just
over half that price. I have the more expensive version and still paid
nowhere near $1K.
Yes, I noticed the overreach on the saw price. Figured that was just
saying for an expensive saw, he was surprised. Actual price was not
that important, he wasn't giving a price quote. My Makita cost about
1/4th what a festering saw w/o accessories cost. Of course a festering
track saw with festering tracks and all, probably gets close. I think he
did use the track, mumbled something about it not needing clamped?
FWIW it is just as easy to correctly spell a tool name as make up a
derogatory name. Grow up, maybe you won't show your hand before you
say anything.
Truth be told, I didn't make up the name, someone else gets the credit
for that. As for showing my hand before I say anything, good, I
wouldn't be posting anything if I wanted to hide "my hand" whatever that
might be.
--
Jack
Tolerance is the virtue of the man without convictions.
http://jbstein.com