On 2/28/2018 8:20 PM, wrote:
On Wed, 28 Feb 2018 07:53:47 -0500, Jack wrote:

On 2/27/2018 7:39 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 27 Feb 2018 09:33:41 -0500, Jack wrote:

On 2/25/2018 12:07 PM, -MIKE- wrote:
On 2/25/18 10:19 AM, Jack wrote:
On 2/24/2018 12:04 PM, wrote:
On Sat, 24 Feb 2018 11:47:30 -0500, Jack wrote:

On 2/23/2018 12:03 PM, Leon wrote:
On 2/23/2018 8:58 AM, Jack wrote:
On 2/20/2018 9:31 AM, Leon wrote:
On 2/19/2018 4:30 PM, Jack wrote:
On 2/18/2018 6:41 PM, wrote:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/lcb112...posted-public/




See? The fishing works. ;-)

I like it. A lot! How do you deal with cutting the top of the
bench?

I built my cutting bench on a solid-core door with a sheet of
3/4" MDF
just sitting on top, held in place by side rails 1/4" shy of the
surface. I'm not short on space so portability wasn't
important. It's
on casters but it never moves more than a foot or two.

Wasn't it you that bought that goofy accordion folding work
table "the
centipede" I think it was called? Everyone got all over the Comet
cause he thought it looked gimmick-ee.

Anyway, this thing Leon built I've seen on YouTube before.
Looks ok
but takes up lots of floor/wall space.

When not in use and being stored it has a foot print of 20"x17".
You
probably take up more space when you are staining in the shop.

From the picture and your comments, you say it has a full sheet of
plywood on top. To me, a full sheet of plywood wouldn't fit on
anything 20x17"?


Picture this, the work bench is "2" sections, side by side. Each
is 96"
long, 20" wide, and 8.5" tall. If I stand both on end, 96" tall, with
the bottom of one against the top of the other the foot print is
20"x17".

You lost me on the 96" long part. It's not clear how you get the long
96" dimension to store against the wall in a 20x8.5" space?

Anyway, it looks OK if you need it, and have space for it. Kevin has
space for it, I personally don't really need it, nor have any space
for it if I did need it.

With that comment, I would recommend that you not build one for
yourself.

Thanks, I'll take your advice on that. I think Kevin should build one,
he won't even need to store it with his 2000' shop. Make it same height
as TS and he has a nice out feed table if he doesn't already have one.

If you mean me (it's "Keith", BTW), no it wouldn't be good for an
outfeed table, for the same reasons. I don't currently have one,
mostly because it hasn't floated to the top of the "do" list. But
when I do build one, it'll be made the same way as my cutting table. I
already have the parts (though haven't decided if I want it on
wheels).

Yes, sorry about the name, I always thought you were Kevin, not sure
why. Also not sure what "the same reasons" are you mention that it
wouldn't work as an outfeed table?

What I don't like about it, assuming you are not tearing it down
between uses, is it has no storage. I would put it on wheels, put
drawered cabinet under the top and make it the right height for the TS
outfeed. I try to have cabinets under most of my big tools, other
than drill press, planer and shaper.


I believe the intended purpose of the table, as described by its
designer, it to be a portable work surface that is (relatively) light,
quickly set-up and torn down, and can be easily handled by one person,
and also have some of the features of a shop workbench, like
under-surface temporary tool storage.

If you put wheels and cabinets underneath, when then you might as well
build a non-portable, regular shop work table. :-)

Yes, for Kevin, I mean Keith, that was my thoughts exactly. He has
2000' of work space. Wheels makes it portable enough. For most a pair
of saw horses is all that's needed for a portable work surface. This
thing Leon built is really just a fancy top for a pair of saw horses,
and would seem best suited to hauling around to work sites. Jay Bates
has a youtube video of one he built, and made it permanent.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rPvkdU5kkqA

I see that as rather dumb, would prefer a cabinet with drawers and such
for storage, and I'm not a fan of open shelves under a bench. They end
up collecting junk thats hard to find and dig out. Drawers were invented
for a reason. There is a lot of stuff I'm not a fan of however, that
many people love. For example, those 5" thick, solid maple, drawerless
work benches with tool tray in the back of the top that all the books
show. What a waste they are (IMNSHO).

That 5" thick top gives the bench some mass so it doesn't try
escaping, stage left, while you're playing with planes and
chisels/mallets.

No need for a super expensive maple top that thick. Build a bench with
drawers full of tools and you will have all the mass you need, plus
storage. An inch and a half pine top is plenty robust for 99.9999% to
100% of all the work a woodworker will be doing on it. You can bang,
plane and chisel all day an 1 1/2" top and it won't move or bounce a
silly millimeter. That's more than twice as thick as the plywood floor
in your house that is holding up your grand piano.

It don't work that way. The top needs the mass to resist movement.

Another thing that makes me laugh is woodworkers putting sand bags on
their lathe to give it mass. OK I guess if you are the type that only
does turnings, but for a guy with a basic wood shop, build a bench with
drawers to hold your lathe up. You get mass, storage, and build skills
all at once, same with a workbench, and you don't need expensive wood to
do it.

It's amazing that you know more than woodworkers who have been doing
this for their entire life.

Amazing that woodworkers that have been doing it their entire life don't
agree with me, who has been doing it his entire life as well. I
explained the reasons behind my extremely experienced opinion, you are
free to disagree and give the basis for disagreement. Saying others
disagree with me is rather lame, but expected from one with about no
experience. Besides, if you look around, you will see very few actual
wood shops with 5" thick $1000 maple worktops, so apparently plenty of
woodworkers agree with me. Also, if you own a lathe, why would you
rather have sand bags holding it down than a cabinet with drawers full
of tools and stuff? Even someone like you should be able to figure it
out, let alone one with a lifetime of experience.

--
Jack
Tolerance is the virtue of the man without convictions.
http://jbstein.com