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On 17/02/2018 23:45, pamela wrote:
On 22:12 17 Feb 2018, Fredxx wrote:

On 17/02/2018 21:56, pamela wrote:
On 21:12 17 Feb 2018, Fredxx wrote:

On 17/02/2018 20:51, pamela wrote:
On 19:20 17 Feb 2018, Fredxx wrote:

On 17/02/2018 15:47, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
dennis@home wrote:
And this line manager is going to set the salary of each
and every person on a regular basis? Secretly, I assume? Or
are you going to make these figures available to the
workforce?

Is you wage a secret or do you tell everyone what it is?

When I worked for a large company it was absolutely not a
secret. Based on a grade and pay scale, same as everyone
else.

You only have to look at the trouble the BBC is in by trying
to keep pay a secret. Although that only really applied to
very small numbers of those it employed in one way or
another.

The BBC is unusual in having to publish salaries. Most
companies have contractual clauses that prevent any discussion
of salaries with other employees in fear of dismissal.

They do? I've never worked in one of those companies.

When was the last time you worked for a private company?


I worked for a private comapny up until I became too ill to work.
Do you work for a private company?


Yes I do, and employees are sacked if they discuss remuneration.
Having said that, some can be discerned by the cars they drive!
Older companies, such as Plessey, also had this rule.


I have never had that constraint imposed on me and never heard of
any company which required it although perhaps there were some years
ago. Since 2010 it is illegal to sack someone for disclosing pay or
upbraid them in any way for it.

See Equality Act 2010 c.15, Part 5, Ch 3, Disclosure of information,
Section 77

"Discussions about pay"

(1) A term of a person's work that purports to prevent or
restrict the person (P) from disclosing or seeking to disclose
information about the terms of P's work is unenforceable against
P in so far as P makes or seeks to make a relevant pay
disclosure."

"(2) A term of a person's work that purports to prevent or
restrict the person (P) from seeking disclosure of information
from a colleague about the terms of the colleague's work is
unenforceable against P in so far as P seeks a relevant pay
disclosure from the colleague; and 'colleague' includes a former
colleague in relation to the work in question."

"(4) The following are to be treated as protected acts for the
purposes of the relevant victimisation provision€” (a) seeking a
disclosure that would be a relevant pay disclosure; (b) making or
seeking to make a relevant pay disclosure; (c) receiving
information disclosed in a relevant pay disclosure."

https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2010/15/section/77


Many thanks indeed. I had no idea that this right to discuss pay and
conditions was now enshrined in law.

One then wonders why any contract of employment would have a
non-disclosure clause, apart to impart fear into employees, when they
are a "protected" act.