On Sun, 21 Jan 2018 10:42:06 -0500, woodchucker
wrote:

On 1/18/2018 8:34 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 18 Jan 2018 14:53:14 -0500, "dadiOH" wrote:


"-MIKE-" wrote in message
news On 1/18/18 10:13 AM, Dr. Deb wrote:
On Wednesday, January 17, 2018 at 8:46:35 PM UTC-6, DerbyDad03 wrote:
They suck.

I look at HF bar clamps as exactly what they are, inexpensive clamping
tools. I could get frosted if I paid $20+ ea for them.
But they are around a quarter of that. If one breaks, I can still
buy two more for the cost of a "Name" brand and be ahead.

Then there is the fact I have a LOT of them and have had no
problems. Could it be that those who are having the problems are
simply over stressing what should be a light duty clamp?


What's alight duty clamp, though.

Beats me, I see little to no difference between the HF quick release clamps
and equivalent ones from Jorgenson et al. If anything, I'd say the the hf
ones - those sold now - are heftier. I use them to clamp all manner of
things.

Not sure what a "quick release" clamp is (that's what the HF bar
clamps do when the casting breaks ;-) but the HF clamps like the Irwin
Gorilla using a wine glass
Quick Clamps aren't worth spit, either. It's not that they're light
duty. They wouldn't work as paper clips.
So only Festool, Fein , Bessey are tools worthy?


And shouldn't the jaws of even a light duty clamp stay at 90 degrees to
the bar.

IME, no clamps like this do that because the bar flexes as pressure is
applied. That's no problem as long as the clamp is properly positioned on
the work piece; i.e., if you don't try to make the clamp head perpendicular
to the work.

Bessey K-Body clamps are pretty good. Even my Irwin Heaavy Duty Quick
Clamps are a *lot* better. In fact the Irwins are the go-to setup
clamps.

So the word Heavy Duty doesn't mean a thing to you? You consider the
light duty not up to the task, because they don't do what the heavy are
capable of?

The point was that, even being one-hand squeeze clamps, they can
deliver a *lot* more force than the subject POS bar clamps. Many here
are denigrating the squeeze clamps but the Irwin 300s and 600s are
damn nice clamps. Haven't broken one yet.