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Default Need help INTERPRETING these test results police cruiser SAE J866a Chase Test

On Sun, 14 Jan 2018 17:58:04 -0800 (PST),

That's retail.

That's why I say those who say "you get what you pay for" are misguided
because a $157 pad "might" be just as good or bad as a $20 pad, where I can
prove this statement for the $300 20W Panasonic speakers in a Toyota since
I know the specs on the $50 speakers at Crutchfields.

Even at Crutchfields, you can get a good $50 speaker or a less-good $50
speaker, and the price is exactly the same.

So if someone tells me "you get what you pay for", they'll get the same
rant from me that everyone loves to pick products off a number line, but
the real number line is a bunch of specs, and not a simple price.

That's retail for you!

And really the difference is greater, I once bought a set of 4 brake
shoes for +AKM-1, that's under $2. They performed without any issue. Why?

I think price is not an indication of anything other than what the
marketing can make people pay. It's certainly not an indication of quality.

No-one here wants to buy brake parts from scrapyards, even though
they're the same parts you get in the shops.

I'm not sure what you mean by "scrapyards". To me, that means a junk yard,
which contains dead cars. I wouldn't buy brakes off a dead car for a
billion reasons which are obvious so I shouldn't need to state it.

What's the difference between my concept of a junkyard (which contains
entire cars that were thrown away) and your scrapyard?

Are you talking about *used* brake pads or *new* brake pads?

if both do the job ok, $20 is the intelligent buying decision.

There is no other logical conclusion to be made, given the information we
have. Price is NOT the determinant of a good or bad brake pad.

The sad thing is that there is no determinant we can make that will hold
true other than there is no difference practically that you can do anything

I'm NOT saying they are all the same. I'm saying we consumers can't tell by
having two of them in our hand or having two of them sold online.

Moving to historic vehicles, how would I find out which friction rating
of oak is?

Or rubber in bicycle brakes.