On 11/13/2017 1:42 PM, Bod wrote:
On 13/11/2017 17:37, Meanie wrote:
On 11/8/2017 4:30 AM, Bod wrote:
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...ates/85994716/


Ireland: Ireland banned firearms in 1972. Irelands homicide rate was
fairly static going all the way back to 1945. In that period, it
fluctuated between 0.1 and 0.6 per 100,000 people. Immediately after
the ban, the murder rate shot up to 1.6 per 100,000 people in 1975. It
then dropped back down to 0.4. It has trended up, reaching 1.4 in 2007.

Australia: Australia enacted its gun ban in 1996. Murders have
basically run flat, seeing only a small spike after the ban and then
returning almost immediately to preban numbers. It is currently
trending down, but is within the fluctuations exhibited in other nations.

Plain and simple. Gun control has no significant impact on murder
rates. Removing firearms does not typically create massive
lawlessness. It is a moot point. These figures arent a secret. Why
would the governments of these nations want a disarmed populace? For
the answer, it is best to look at a nation that has had long-time gun
bans that is currently relaxing their laws. Russia recently relaxed
its firearms laws. For the first time in recent memory, a Russian
citizen can carry a firearm. The prohibited items speak volumes about
what a governments motive behind disarming the population is. Russia
has allowed €œsmoothbore long barrelled guns, pistols, revolvers, and
other firearms, as well as Tasers, and devices equipped with teargas.€�
Thats almost everything, what is still banned? Rifles. So the Russian
government has made it clear that the real objective is to remove
rifles from civilian hands. The reasoning is pretty clear: you need
rifles to overthrow a government.


The Real Reason Gun Control Will Never Work:
Poverty has a greater correlation to violent crime than access to
firearms. Education and poverty are directly linked. In short, we
dont have a gun problem in the United States, we have a cultural
problem. Most people in the gun control lobby know nothing about
firearms or their construction. Everything you need to manufacture
firearms is available at Home Depot. The materials needed to
manufacture a 12 gauge shotgun cost about $20. If someone wanted to
build a fully automatic Mac-10 style submachine gun, it would probably
cost about $60. Every electrician, plumber, and handyman in the
country has the materials necessary to manufacture firearms in their
shop. The items are completely unregulated. They arent like the
chemicals necessary to manufacture methamphetamine. How is the battle
against that black market working out?

We have a society that panders to the basest desires and instincts.
One of those is violence. We live in a society where women are given
dirty looks for breastfeeding in a restaurant, while over their heads
on the wall-mounted television plays a movie that graphically depicts
someone being tortured to death. We are desensitized to violence, and
we have a generation of people that do not have the coping skills
necessary to deal with reality.

Firearms are the Pandoras Box of the United States. The box is open,
it cant be closed through legislation. If you want to change society,
you have to actually change the whole of society. You cant blame an
inanimate object thats availability has absolutely no correlation to
murder and expect to end violence.

Yes, the genie is out of the bottle and the gun problem would be a
challenge to improve on, but surely it is worthy of a discussion of ideas.


The solution is simple but government is run by a bunch of money hungry
buffoons.