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On Thursday, 12 October 2017 17:24:58 UTC+1, Bob Eager wrote:
On Thu, 12 Oct 2017 07:16:26 -0700, whisky-dave wrote:

On Thursday, 12 October 2017 13:55:34 UTC+1, Bob Eager wrote:
On Thu, 12 Oct 2017 05:27:02 -0700, whisky-dave wrote:

On Thursday, 12 October 2017 12:25:58 UTC+1, Bob Eager
wrote:
On Thu, 12 Oct 2017 03:19:14 -0700, whisky-dave wrote:

On Wednesday, 11 October 2017 17:25:28 UTC+1, Bob Eager
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On Wed, 11 Oct 2017 12:21:51 +0100, Dave W wrote:

the other can ring to be let in.

What happens IF that person dies or is taken
seriously
ill.

You can't get in, either because you left the house
by
slamming
the Yale lock without having its key, or you left the
house
via
the key lock we're talking about, and the person put
their
own
key in the lock after you'd gone.

Which is why I can unlock our front door from my
mobile.

Can others .

No. At least, a vrowbar would be easier. It has 2FA.

So no one else can get into your property ? what happens
if
something goes wrong with the phone ?, what if someone such
as
the
wife or kids want to get in ?

The normal entry method is a key. Those flat metal things.

So the same problem as anyone else would have with a key from
it
getting
lost stolen or broken.

No.

One can get into the house using a key.

can you get into the house using an app on the phone.


If that is lost or stolen, or forgotten, one can use the phone
to
gain
entry.

I suppose no one else can use a phonme and app to get in either

Corse they can't when they cant do the Touch ID on the phone
or supply the passcode the phone requires to allow it to be used..

Most phones don't have touch ID

Thats a lie with current phones.

if you're a family you might not all have current phones.

No big deal, use RFID for the little kids etc.

Who can get 'tailgated' by just about anyone and it puts the kid at risk.

Trivial to have a crisis button just inside the door they can hit.

Why goive a kid a RFID but not a key ?

Because its more convenient for the kid to use
and much less risk that a plastic strap thing on
their wrist that isnt easy to remove wont get lost.

But they donlt do it and most of that is down to cost of the hardware &installation.

Just like teh fantastic idea that mobile phones would reduce crime, because if anyone saw a crime they'd call the police, hasn;lt realy, worked out as expected.



and if yuo forget your phone....

You use the RFID instead. Even you should be able to manage that.

What RFID ?

The one any decent electronic lock works with as well as phones.

Whya would yuo carry an RFID and phone, if
the phone can do everything the RFID card can ?

Because the phone can die, the battery can go
flat, it can be left behind somewhere, or stolen.

So what's the advantage over a key ?



You can't even anser what setup you have.

I have already, repeatedly.

The problem is spare keys can cost a few quid

RFID doesnt.

and the sort of setup you're talking about runs into thousands.

RFID doesnt.

Yes it does.

Nope. Just the one electronic lock for the front door doesnt.

what about the rest of the setup, maglocks installed, spply to the maglocks..


There's reasons why everyone hasn;t rushed
out to buy them like they do iphones.

Yep, using the exiting key is cheaper.

and replacing it is quick too.


And dont try to claim that RFID is too
easy to steal and use to get into the house,

which they are just like any other card.

Even sillier than you usually manage. The RFID can be on a
plastic wrist strap like the hospitals use. Much harder to lose.

You can do that with a key if you want.
I have my RFID on a chain and a set of keys on a chain attachet to my belt.
Really old tech, that doesn't require any instalation.


Which might just be why hospitals do it that way.

Hospital can afford it as it;s for multi[ple occpancy like universites and the like.