"pamela" wrote in message
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On 11:26 30 Sep 2017, tim... wrote:



"Cursitor Doom" wrote in message
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On Fri, 29 Sep 2017 09:20:02 +0100, Tim Streater wrote:

No, I'm complaining about how irresponsible the EU is being.

We need to walk out of these so-called 'talks' and demonstrate
a bit of spine. Let the industrialists in Germany see if they
can get some sense through to these intransigent wasters.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017...may-must-walk-
away-brexit-talks-christmas-trade-negotiations/

(And FWIW, I fully agree - they are taking us for suckers!)

tim

What would the UK gain by walking away?

No exit fee whatever. No longer paying the EU billions a year.
Free to do anything it likes about immigrants from the EU.
Free to do anything it likes policy wise on anything.

If we walk away the EU is very unlikley to coming
running after us and implore us to come back and
they will behave differently if we negoatiate.

Sure, but Britain is free to trade under the WTO rules, like all
of the USA, India, China, Japan, Australia, NZ etc etc etc all do.

In the eventuality that in 2 years the UK hasn't made many trade deals

It just uses the WTO rules, and the WTO just happens to be BY FAR
the most comprehensive trade deal the world has ever seen with
almost every country in the entire world a signatory. The only
non signatorys can by quite literally counted on the fingers of
just one hand and are just a few irrelevancys like North Korea.

and the UK's arrangements are all a bit of mess,

That is flagrantly dishonest given the WTO which Britain was in
fact very instrumental in setting up and is still heavily involved with.

then the fallback option will be to buy and sell
goods with the EU because they are so close

Distance has bugger all to do with it anymore, as
China and India and Bangladesh etc have discovered.

and our goods are to their specs.

They already are, so that’s a complete yawn.

Bositerous Brexiteers thought the EU needed us more
than we need them. The reality is totally different.

They still need quite a bit of what Britain exports, like
aircraft engines, wings, docos, TV series, books etc for
the very simple reason that they don’t produce them
themselves. And Germany still need its exports to Britain.

Financial services in spades. The krauts can't even manage
to work out who is going to be able to pay back their
loans in full, let alone even just the interest on them.