"Mark" wrote in message
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On Wed, 27 Sep 2017 15:13:56 +0100, Tim Streater
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In article , pamela
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On 08:52 27 Sep 2017, Tim Streater wrote:

In article , tim...
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"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message
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AFAIA every single Brexiter wants an EU Trade agreement.
It's the means by which it is achieved that differs

No Brexiteer wants a trade agreement with the EU. We already
had one. They want to have a deal on their terms only.

nonsense, that's just negotiation bluster

Which is not an agreement.

which the EU seems to excel in doing when they negotiate

AISB, wake me up when the EU has learnt what he word
"negotiation" means. And when they start practising what the
word means.

This makes me laugh. The UK decision to leave forced the EU into
negotiations. Now the EU is acting in a way which maximises the
outcome for them. What else did we expect?

No, they're acting in a way that will minimise their outcome. Because
if they carry on with their non-negotiations, we will just walk away.

The UK needs the EU every bit as much as the reverse.
Walking away would be cutting the nose off to spite the face.

That's bull****. All of the USA, Japan, Korea, India, Australia,
NZ etc etc etc all do fine without any agreement with the EU.

Yes, a free trade agreement would be useful, but not
essential. The WTO rules, by far the most comprehensive
trade agreement the world has ever seen, works fine.

"Negotiation" means that you don't end up with everything you want.
The EU just walks into the room, plonks down their demands, and
expects us to knuckle forehead, open our wallet and say "Help yourself".

The government seems to be saying "Help yourself".

Even sillier than you usually manage, and that's saying something.

They don't have a clue.

They havent been stupid enough to be into paying any exit fee,
something for which there is no mention of in Article 50, let alone
the treaty of lisbon.