"Harold Davis" wrote in message
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pamela wrote in news:XnsA7F98EF92106CD4AM2@
81.171.92.183:

On 13:15 23 Sep 2017, Tim Streater wrote:

In article , Mark
wrote:

On Sat, 23 Sep 2017 12:34:59 +0100, Tim Streater
wrote:

Not that this alters the case for leaving one iota.

True. There was never a good case for leaving the EU and even
less now. Delaying jumping off the cliff isn't going to change
the eventual outcome. International confidence in the UK is
dropping all the time and several agencies have downgraded the
UK's credit rating as a result.

The fact that the
EU would do this merely confirms why we should be leaving.

No. EU cohesion is more important than one country who are
trying to leave. The EU recognise how stupid the UK is at the
moment. The little englanders have sold you a dud.

And the UK negociators haven't a clue what they are doing.

Don't be silly. If the EU can only be held together by threats
and bullying then it should be dissolved altogether and new
arrangements made.

The problem is not so much having an EU, it's *this* EU, this
*corrupt* and *undemocratic* EU.

And FYI, there aren't any "little englanders", and they haven't
sold me anything; I've known about how unfit for purpose the EU
is for many years.

Little Englanders are very much alive and kicking. They are
Farage and Johnson's supporters.

These Litle Englanders seem to forget how, for decades after the
war Britain slipped behind it's European neighbours economically
and was known as the sick man of Europe. The Little Englanders
opposed change and in particular change the way the Europeans were
doing. In the end, the loss was ours and we had to spend decades
catching up as best as we could.

Anyone who hasn't got **** for brains knows that Britain should stay in
the EU.

I don't even argue the point because it's so obvious.

but it ****ing well isn't and insulating the opposition doesn't win you the
argument

You actually have to make cogent points

tim