On Saturday, August 26, 2017 at 9:19:44 AM UTC-4, Dean Hoffman wrote:
On 8/25/17 9:14 PM, Iggy wrote:
replying to Ed Pawlowski, Iggy wrote:
Yep, they seem like good deals and maybe they even turn out to be. But,
your
old stuff lasted 20-years or more, was more energy efficient
I don't see how you can claim things were more energy efficient
back when.
It's easy, he's obviously a complete moron. Ed's example of an old
window AC from the 60s was what started it. They were so heavy it
took two people to lift. They cost $150 back then, which would be like
what? $800 in today's dollars? And I'm sure they used 50% or 100%
more electricity than today's units. Now you can get a unit for
$100 to $150, it's half the weight, uses a fraction of the electricity.
The only remaining issue is how long they last? They may not last
as long, IDK, but if they only last half as long, it's still one hell
of a better deal. And not many people want an appliance to last
20 or 30 years. If you paid twice as much for an window AC 25 years
ago because it would last longer, are you better off? Now they have
ones that use less electricity, have wireless remote controls, look better,
are quieter, and cost less in constant dollars.
Old houses had wooden siding, studs, then plaster. No insulation
in the walls or above the ceilings.
Compare the old tube tvs with the modern ones. It seemed like
the tv repairman was always out at our farm changing tubes. The
channel selector had something like 13 choices. Black and white, not
color tv.
Cars today get a lot better gas mileage. Somewhere in the mid
teens/mile was common. Now it's in the upper 20s/mile. A car used to
be on its way down after 100,000 miles or so. Now they're just well
broken in.
I just added some lights to my trike. The two added LEDs in front
together draw 9 watts, yet outshine the high beam headlight that draws
55 watts. Look at the lighting on semis. The vast majority have LEDs
now. It looks like the trucking companies are retrofitting them to the
trailers.
There's a website, Carpe Diem, written by Mark J. Perry. He's
written a couple articles in the past comparing typical household items
past and present. The hours we work to buy the modern versions is
typically a lot less than in the past.
One article is he
http://www.aei.org/publication/home-appliances-good-old-days-now-theyre-cheaper-better-energy-efficient-ever/
or http://alturl.com/e8rzi
There are more articles there on the subject. Go to the site
http://www.aei.org/publication/blog/carpe-diem/ and search there
for hours worked for an appliance.
Search is right above the guy's head.
Cut rest.