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news On Tue, 20 Jun 2017 12:22:43 +0100, michael adams wrote:

Then, when on day one of the negotiations when it became clear that
there would otherwise be no talks, Davis immediately caved in.

Nothink to worry about. All they've done is agree to fix the "leaving
fee" til later; that's all.

Precisely the opposite, I'm afraid. That's the whole point

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The question of the UK financial settlement, along with an
agreement on the rights of expats on both sides of the Channel
will be the first two items that will be settled in the talks,
which will begin in earnest next month.

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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017...ope-lock-horns
-brexit-bill-day-one-talks/

Basically until the UK agrees to pay them what they
think they're due, regardless of whether anyone else
thinks this is fair or not, they're not going to
negotiate on anything else.

This was the fait accompli which Davis was presented
with on Monday morning.

If you read the article some of the sums being mentioned
as compo are simply staggering i.e 100 billion

It's maybe no wonder a lot of people are trying to
play this down.



michael adams

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The EU position was nothing is agreed till everything is agreed.

Er no. As explained above

Thats a CLAIM, not an explanation, and its just plain wrong.

agreement has first to be reached on the amount of the divorce
settlement, plus EU
citizens rights.

Thats just the EU ambit claim with no legal basis what so ever.


snipped the usual rubbish

You still don't get it, do you ?

The whole point of this thread, is that that is exactly what David
Davis has already agreed to. On the first day of the "negotiations".

Which part of

quote

The question of the UK financial settlement, along with an
agreement on the rights of expats on both sides of the Channel
will be the first two items that will be settled in the talks,
which will begin in earnest next month.

/quote

Exactly -Settled!! And as an opener we have asked them to explain the
legal basis of their claim - which seemed to take them aback.
No legal basis - matter settled
Next item.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017...lock-horns-bre
xit-bill-day-one-talks/are you having the most difficulty with ?To
repeat: David Davis has already agreed that the amount of thedivorce
settlement and the citizenship rights of expats will firstneed to be
settled before moving onto anything else.Now quite possibly Davis
already realises that the UK won'tbe able to reach any agreement on
these, so that the nexttwo years are going to be a bit of a charade.By
which time of course, the Pound Sterling will be tradingat around US
15cmichael adams...


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