"michael adams" wrote in message
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"Cursitor Doom" wrote in message
news On Tue, 20 Jun 2017 12:22:43 +0100, michael adams wrote:

Then, when on day one of the negotiations when it became clear that
there would otherwise be no talks, Davis immediately caved in.

Nothink to worry about. All they've done is agree to fix the "leaving
fee" til later; that's all.

Precisely the opposite, I'm afraid. That's the whole point

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The question of the UK financial settlement, along with an
agreement on the rights of expats on both sides of the Channel
will be the first two items that will be settled in the talks,
which will begin in earnest next month.

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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017...day-one-talks/

Basically until the UK agrees to pay them what they
think they're due, regardless of whether anyone else
thinks this is fair or not, they're not going to
negotiate on anything else.

This was the fait accompli which Davis was presented
with on Monday morning.

If you read the article some of the sums being mentioned
as compo are simply staggering i.e 100 billion

It's maybe no wonder a lot of people are trying to
play this down.



michael adams

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The EU position was nothing is agreed till everything is agreed.

Er no. As explained above

That’s a CLAIM, not an explanation, and its just plain wrong.

agreement has first to be reached on the amount of the divorce settlement,
plus EU citizens rights.

That’s just the EU ambit claim with no legal basis what so ever.

Only after that will the EU agree to start talks on other things including
trade, the CAP, fisheries, customs etc, etc.

And if no agreement is reached in 2 years, Britain is
out regardless and the EU gets to like that or lump it.

So DD accepts some sort of silly settlement now then renages later when
further into talks with some suitable legalise excuse.

But that's not really an option.

Corse it is. Britain is free to leave the EU
with no agreement at all on anything.

As given the bad faith already in evidence, these agreements will be
drafted so tightly as to leave
no possible scope for any wriggle room at all.

Britain doesn’t have to agree to anything at all.

While reneging on any agreement

There doesn’t have to be any agreement at all.

would simply relegate the Pound s#Sterling to the same level, both in
terms of value and credibility as the Zimbabwean Dollar. It took Robert
Mugabe years to achieve what the UK could manage within days.

Even sillier and more pig ignorant than you usually manage.