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On 09/04/17 14:20, Brian Gaff wrote:
Like many stores they tend to stock items made
by others,
and
if
the
quality
drops often they never notice till enough tell
them.
They are not alone in this Ring garden lights
got taken
over
and
every
since their lights are absolute crap.
Brian

Is that the same Ring as automotive
accessories? Those seem
to
get
poor
press on Amazon.

Yup. All made in China. Warehouse near Leeds.

But most electrical equipment is made in China,
is it not? My
new
mobile is made in China. I expect if I bought an
iPhone it
would
be
made in China too. Much as I would like to
support UK
manufacturing,
I think the days of saying goods made in China
are of poor
quality
are
long gone.

Try buying the cheap Chinese stuff on Ebay. I've
got
rechargeable
batteries here which have 20% of their rated
capacity. The
chargers
work though.

I'm not saying there is no tat made in China; I'm
saying not all
that
is made in China is tat.

Every single Chinese Li-Ion battery is tat.

Not the ones that Apple uses.

Aren't the good ones made in Japan?

The originals certainly arent.

And have you tested the actual capacity of an Apple
battery?

Not possible no capacity is listed on the originals.

You bought something without any specs?!

The battery came with the device.

It should have a capacity on it.

No point when its built in to what you buy.

Handy to know how long it lasts and takes to charge.

Sure, but there are a lot more other variables involved
in that than just the capacity of the battery.

One. The current from the charger.

If it doesn't, Apple are scum.

You are free to never touch anything they sell.

I made that decision when they launched the Mac Classic.

That doesn't have a battery whose capacity matters.

We're talking about the scumness of the company. They make
shiny versions of the same thing everyone else makes,

Some of us like shiney things , sometimes they are better too,
but who's stupid enough to buy a phone whos battery explodes ?

That could happen to any phone, or any device using a Li-Ion
battery.

It could but it doesn't as some are better desingen or have larger
safety margins.

Parts are made by many different companies, so that's not possible.

So why expect to be able to replace them ?
Why replay on company one to make and sell a batter for company 2 ?

So I don't have to pay the manufacturer a fortune to open the cover.

If the company put a decent size battery in there in the first place you
wouldn't need to replace it.

Size is irrelevant, batteries have a limited lifespan.

That utterly mangles the real story.

The lifespan of that sort of battery is determined
by how often it is recharged and that obviously
is affected by the size of the battery when a
bigger battery is recharged less often.

You design a laptop, buy in some batteries,

If done properly you tell the bcompony what size and specs yuo want
the battery to be.
You don;t build anyhting themn go out and find a battery which will
magically fit it either electrically or mechanically.
Well unless you're a cheap knock out company copying others products.

That won't stop the battery manufacturer making dud ones.

Of course it won't with generic laptop batteries being sold.
If your battery is of a specific type maybe a knockoff supplier won't
bother.

Duds occur no matter what.

and the battery company makes a ****up somewhere.
You don;t support such companies.

You don't know which company might make a dodgy batch in the future.

You can go by reputation and that is one reason why Apple seem to do
better than certain other companies.

But you pay twice the price for their product.

I believe some Dell laptops did the same.

Only Dell, can't any laptop battery explode ?

I only heard of Dells doing it.

samsugn phone batteries .

They're not laptops.

They are batteries that explode were are apple's exploding batteries ?

Luck.

Nothing to do with luck.

Why would a person chose a product with an exploding battery surely
they are the morons those buying dell as yuo say.
Do you buy stuff with exploding batteries so you can change them.
I'd rather buy stuff with non-explodign battereis that I don't
need to change.

You don't know they're going to be exploding.

So why were the samsung phones withdrawn and apps written to only
charge the battery to 60% ?

What has that to do with people choosing to buy Samsung phones?

Why would you buy a phone and limit it's charging capacity to 60% ?
You can't even swap them out.
Whever happened to the great idea of replacable batteries like they had
in laptops.

You can swap out anything with a screwdriver and half a clue.

Even more pig ignorant than you usually manage.

Before any exploded, nobody knew. After some exploded, the ones sold
after that would be safe.

But they weren't even those were they reaplced the batteries still
exploded.

How many exploded and how many didn't? It's a very small proportion and
only ****wit reporters in the media make a big deal about it.

Does the phone in your battery only charge to 60% or do you stop
charging just in case it explodes.

I don't worry about the unlikely.

Thats' the way those that use Apple laptops feel about their batteries or
rather the life of them, in the unlikely event that they'll fail before
the useful life of a laptop.

They're all unlikely to explode, Apple or not.

Even sillier than you usually manage.

And Apple are just as likely to have dodgy batteries in the future,

Even sillier than you usually manage.

in fact probably moreso, because Samsung will be being more careful.

Didn't happen with the Note 7