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Default Stupidity of design. Rant Warning!

On Mon, 15 May 2017 07:14:09 -0700, Normal Person wrote:

On Mon, 15 May 2017 08:42:44 -0500, Terry Coombs
wrote:

On 5/15/2017 7:59 AM, robobass wrote:
"14mm might be too big for the amount of torque that 1/4" can handle"
If this is true, you are certainly working on different kinds of things than me.

No **** Sherlock . I work on things like cars , motorcycles , and
other machinery as needed . I have the correct tools for most jobs , as
in 1/4" , 3/8" , and 1/2" drive socket sets - both deep and regular ,
and none of them are cheap ass Chinese pseudo-steel . I also have a
pretty well-equipped machine shop , so those tools I don't have and need
can often be made right here at home .

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Snag


On the slimmest chance there might be a newb reading, do not fall for
the _one must have "good"/expensive tools mantra_. I do more, and more
complicated things than most. That includes building a complex
aircraft and several homes. On my last move I had to leave most of my
tools behind. When I replaced the sockets, it was with two large,
identical sets of 1/4, 3/8 and 1/2" drive which cost less than $100
each. That's because I tend to lose them or weld them into other tools
before I break them, and because having duplicates saves time
searching for tools. My 3/4" set is also "Chinese pseudo steel," and I
haven't broken one of those either. The anti-cheap tool thing is more
of an ideology than a practicality. Buying what you can afford, and
using it, is a better mantra.

Gotta remember, there is inexpensive, and then there is CHEAP. No
problem with inexpensive quality tools - and there are a LOT of them
available today. BIG problem with "cheap" tools, at any price.

Today I could replace my entire set of mechanics tools with decent
quality stuff for just over half, in TODAY'S dollars, what I paid for
my tools in 1969-=1975 dollars. That is a HUGE difference.

I spent about 20 grand on mechanics tools up to 1990, the vast
majority prior to 1975. I started buying tools (a $499 "starter set")
back in 1969, when I was earning less than $1.50 per hour and driving
cars that cost less than 1/4 that price - - -