On Mon, 08 May 2017 04:59:51 -0700, Larry Jaques
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On Sun, 07 May 2017 22:06:24 -0700, Gunner Asch
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On Sun, 07 May 2017 19:17:15 -0700, Larry Jaques
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On Sat, 06 May 2017 18:33:48 -0700, Gunner Asch
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On Sat, 06 May 2017 15:55:12 -0700, Larry Jaques
wrote:

On Sat, 06 May 2017 13:54:32 -0700, Gunner Asch
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My wife and I rode out the Coalinga Earthquake back in 1983. We had 6
months supply of food, well stored and properly contained. It lasted
almost 3 weeks, as we were the only people on our block who had more
than 3-4 days worth of groceries in their kitchen. Just a heads up.

The first thing you do is NEVER TELL ANYONE YOU HAVE FOOD STORAGE.
I thought you knew that.

I volunteered the food. Small town, a largely elderly population,
lots of widows and widowers along with a significant number of young
farm laborers with small children.

In the event of a real long-term emergency, you would have quickly
killed (or not) yourselves and extended their lives to die a few weeks
later.

Define "real long term emergency". It was an earthquake, not an emp
strike over the entire USA. One could drive 15 miles away and buy
food and fuel. That wouldnt be happening in many "real emergencies"

When the San Andreas goes off as expected, everything will have to be
airlifted to the CA coast. If a dozen bad guys (perhaps refugees we
have let into our country or tangoes who walked across our
non-existent borders) shot out strategic transformers along a major
grid feed, and/or dropped bio weapon material in our water treatment
plants/reservoirs, etc. Or an EMP, which is the simplest for enemies
(or the Sun's largest flare sets) to take us out. We're so clustered
in cities now that any one of those has the possibility of killing
tens or hundreds of millions. Our gov't has imported refugees, which
if organized, could wreak total havoc on us over wide areas,
preventing distribution of help to vast target areas. MOFOs or Mother
Nature. Take your pick.


How did you get water?

What...you dont keep any of the blue food grade plastic 55 gallon
drums filled with water? Blink blink

Nope. I have a well, and I bought a manual pump for it to replace the
electric, JIC.

Good for you. How deep is your potable ground water? Here in Taft,
its at 550 feet.

My well is 50' and water level is 18'. The only problem with it is
iron bacteria, which is only a stain problem and is easily filtered
out. But it's easily pumped, unlike your deep wells.


Yeah, septic, which I just paid $400 to pump.

Be sure..be sure to use any of the good septic additives regularly. A
proper maintainence program is a very good thing. Be sure to use
biodegradable soaps in your washing machines as well.

I do. I went 15 years between pumpings, and it looked great when the
guys were done. They said they'd come back in a decade.


Took em long enough as it was. It took the Feds almost 3 weeks to get
services up and running, for some value of "running"

They brought in almost 1200 travel trailers for people to temporarily
live in and then brought in mobile homes and sold/rented them for
peanuts, until they could get a home built.

Formaldehyde filled trailers, a la Katrina? What a fiasco that was. A
neighbor was one of the truck drivers and they hauled a load of FEMA
water for Katrina survivors to...NJ! She questioned it at the time
but the dispatcher said "Follow the order to the T or we don't get
paid." When she reached the NE, they cut new delivery orders to LA.
A week's delay for water probably killed some people, and that's with
the rest of the country upright and working.


You may be interested in reading this :

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Oh, yeah. I'll read that this morning.


You could get by, by filling 2 and 3 liter soda bottles with water and
adding 2-3 drops of Clorox to each bottle before TIGHTLY screwing on
the lid. We keep 20, as our short term supply, and they are easily
portable, so IF we have to leave, or need to give water to someone..we
can simply hand out a bottle or two.

12 drops/gal, not 2. But I have a Sawyer Point One filter. It keeps
out most virii/bacteria and all but heavy metals. Point one micron
filtration, quickly flushable with reverse flow. HIGHLY recommended.
I got the big one (infinite gallons) and bought the smaller ones
(guaranteed 100k gallons) for my family in the Bay Area.



We have lotsa tules up here, but you're right, the quantity of people
thinking that way would scare away all the wildlife, anyway, so...

Indeed. And one should remember that the Great Depression of the
1930s virtually wiped out the deer herds all across the US. Plus a lot
of other edible small game. Took 25-40 yrs to recover in many places.


The other way is to "bunker in place", which to most of us Old
Dudes...snicker..makes a great deal of sense. If the injuns go on the
warpath or there is a big assed forest fire coming..thats one
thing..but for nearly anything else..shelter in place, know your
neighbors, protect each others backs and if not thrive..survive with
some comfort in your own bed. Bugging In makes sense most of the
time.

Ditto here.

I bought David Morris' Suvive in Place program to help me along those
lines. Good info, inexpensive prog.


You being nearly on top of the San Andreas Fault line puts you in
pretty deep ****.

True indeed. However..Ive mitigated as many risks as possible, and
have made plans and preperations to handle as many of the issues as
possible. There are other faults in the West, along with inside of
California, that can cause far..far bigger havok than just the San
Andreas. A number of them directly under the LA Basin.

Your plumbing would be gone, trailer shifted off the blocks. Mine
might be, too, after a large earthquake.

My "trailer" is strapped to 18 deadmen under the frame. It may
move..but its unlikely to fall.

http://www.mobilehomestuffstore.com/...chors/2,8.html

I only wish Id done it before installing the "trailer halves". It was
a pain in the ass doing it 10 yrs later.


Doesnt cost much to put a little bit aside, if you do it wisely and be
at least moderately informed. And if Bad **** Happens...you may live.
I equate it with wearing seat belts and keeping fire extinguishers
around. Cant hurt and IF you need it...you will REALLY need em.

Truth!
Yeah, I've been doing that for years now, too.

Smart fellah.

Like a Boy Scout, I yam. Semper Paratus.

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