On 04/29/2017 05:34 PM, Diesel wrote:
philo news Apr 2017 18:45:16 GMT in alt.home.repair, wrote:

snipped but read




They were the CR2032

and one thing I know is batteries. I was a senior service engineer
at Enersys-Delaware and had 38 years in the field when I retired.
(Previously Yuasa-Exide and before that Exide)

That's nice. I'm quite familiar with Exide myself. One of their
plants *was* a little ways down the road from me. They're supposedly
going to be restarting operations soon. I used to get killer deals on
various types of batteries, because, a very close friends wife worked
there at the time. She's not doing well health wise now as a result
of that job, though. Walking around in battery acid upto your knees
tends to take it's toll on you, protective gear or not.


Ironically after the buy outs , Exide is no longer Exide.


Enersys-Delaware bought all of the Exide technology including the
manufacturing facilities and Exide was nothing but a name owned by
/some/ of the original owners. They in turn bought out Gould National
Battery which have previously bought out Chloride Battery (which is
where I originally started)

So if you want the superior Exide technology you need to go to Enersys.

Enserys-Delaware bought out Hawker and the chargers use super-efficient
high frequency conversion . Exide chargers use the old Chloride
ferroresonant transformers. Although some mfg's make reliable
transformers the ones they use are the same old unreliable design they
have used ever since the days they were Berg-Gibson.

As to the batteries themselves both Exide and Enersys make a decent
enough flat plate battery but Enderys-Delaware is the only US mfg making
a vastly superior tubular battery.


BTW: For five years, Yuasa was the majority owner of Exide and all of us
were worried about the Japanese ownership, but nothing changed at all
other than the fact that they gave out Turkeys every Thanksgiving.
They must have thought that was a good American thing to do.

When it became Enersys-Delaware and 100% American again they did the
American thing and closed their oldest plant in Lexington and started
making the flat plate batteries in Mexico.

After some initial quality control issues were straightened out, we had
much less problem with the Mexican batteries than those built in the US.



BD told me you were some genius with computers too, and I found out
differently after chatting with you for a bit, so You'll have to
excuse me if I question other things you may discuss at this point.


It was me just being modest and I do admit to not being much of a
programmer...but as far as actually trouble-shooting and repairing I am
battery pretty near 1000. I don't know if I've ever worked on computer I
could not fix. One of my most harrowing repairs was repairing the
electronics on a failed hard drive. I found a bad solder joint on a
surface mount capacitor. I then gave the owner of the machine a lecture
on backing up.


It's not that I have a personal issue of any kind with you, it's all
about my thirst for knowledge. Inaccurate knowledge is tainted, you
understand.

I know how to test a CMOS battery under load and always do so with
any that might have been sitting around for a while, but they do
have a very long shelf life.

The reason I asked was because you bought them overseas and didn't
provide any information other than sticking them in the machine and
away they went. Depending on the internals of the battery, it may
have a 'long shelf' life; but you didn't define what that means to
you, either.

I bought them a few years ago and their OC voltage is still 3.3v and
they appear identical in every way to the batteries I've purchased locally.


It was more of a psychological need than a real one.

That, I do understand.

Example:

Ten years after I had been living in my house, I one day noticed
that the bathroom light had no globe. It was just a bare light
bulb.

I went over to the nearest h/w store but they were out of the size
I needed. The clerk told me he was getting a restock shipment in
two days and to come back.


Needless to say I went to another H/W store, no way was I going to
wait two more days!

I did something very close to this last week! I purchased another
external HD to make a near network wide backup. I've already got
various backups, but, for some reason, I wanted to make another one,
that day, on a fresh drive. I had no logical reason to do so, so
soon. Slimer isn't even giving a hint of pending hardware/software
failures, but, My mind is at ease now knowing everything on it and a
few other boxes is safely stored on yet another drive.