"dennis@home" wrote in message
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On 28/04/2017 16:38, whisky-dave wrote:
On Friday, 28 April 2017 15:14:45 UTC+1, Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
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up about us leaving the EU. Basically non of the usual tariffs
and duties etc will apply. Such is their brave new world.

the problem is that there are two different points here

Most leavers who say that "tariffs are optional" are usually
responding to the otf claimed nonsense in the press, that leaving
the EU will impose tariffs that WILL put up prices for UK
consumers, when that is a complete falsehood.

All you can do is think about the most likely scenario. If anyone
thinks the non EU UK will allow in all imports regardless tariff
free, they are totally mad.

Of course they are if they think EU citizens will accept massive
increases in say the cost of whisky or cheddar cheese. I doubt those
in the UK will be very happy if the UK puts a tarrif on say brie or
german cars, but if we do who is likely to loose out most. Germany
because the taffir is 50% and no one in the UK (or very few) will buy
a gernan car at twice the price it was last week, who will lose
out... It'll be Germany NOT the UK as anyoen wantint to buy a car
might go for a non german car that has lower tarriffs or a car made
in the UK. I douubt those considering a car will give up driving or
start walking or using public transport

Also considering that most say we don't export much at all anyway,
why should we worry about tarrifs ?

Suppose the EU puts a 5% tariff on jet engines how long would it be before
all the Airbus planes were ordered with prat and whitney engines?

Why would Airbus change on that ? The tariff would have to apply
to both US and British manufactured engines under the WTO rules.

Suppose the EU put a 10% tariff on aeroplane wings how long do you think
it would take to move wing production to France?

A ****ing long time given how hard it is to setup a new
plant to do that, let alone the immense cost of doing that.

Suppose the EU put a 10% tariff on cars how long do you think it would
take for the Japanese car makers to move production of all the export
models to another EU country?

Wouldnt ever happen, because they sell plenty of them to poms.

Do you really think the EU would worry if we put a 10% tariff on cars we
import?

Corse it would when fewer poms would buy cars made in the EU
and would buy ones made on that soggy little frigid island instead,
mostly by very inefficient union bludgers who can demand anything
they like in wages and conditions with cheap labour no longer
allowed to pour in from the dregs of the EU if they want to.

That would decimate our agricultural industry in short order.
Why ?

And pretty well all others too. Because the likelihood is other
countries will put tariffs on our goods regardless of what we do.
In the absence of any trade agreement, other than WTO.

So what if tarrifs are put on our goods ?

If you do understand this how about some examples.

Everything that has been said is about others putting tariffs on our goods
or don't you get it?

You have never got the basics yourself.