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On 09/04/17 14:20, Brian Gaff wrote:
Like many stores they tend to stock items made by others, and
if
the
quality
drops often they never notice till enough tell them.
They are not alone in this Ring garden lights got taken over
and
every
since their lights are absolute crap.
Brian

Is that the same Ring as automotive accessories? Those seem to
get
poor
press on Amazon.

Yup. All made in China. Warehouse near Leeds.

But most electrical equipment is made in China, is it not? My
new
mobile is made in China. I expect if I bought an iPhone it would
be
made in China too. Much as I would like to support UK
manufacturing,
I think the days of saying goods made in China are of poor
quality
are
long gone.

Try buying the cheap Chinese stuff on Ebay. I've got rechargeable
batteries here which have 20% of their rated capacity. The
chargers
work though.

I'm not saying there is no tat made in China; I'm saying not all
that
is made in China is tat.

Every single Chinese Li-Ion battery is tat.

Not the ones that Apple uses.

Aren't the good ones made in Japan?

The originals certainly arent.

And have you tested the actual capacity of an Apple battery?

Not possible no capacity is listed on the originals.

You bought something without any specs?!

The battery came with the device.

It should have a capacity on it.

No point when its built in to what you buy.

Handy to know how long it lasts and takes to charge.

Handy but not that important, but if you want to know read the specs.
iphone7
Up to 2 hours longer battery life than iPhone 6s
Talk time (wireless):
Up to 14 hours on 3G
Standby:
Up to 10 days

Internet use:
Up to 12 hours on 3G
Up to 12 hours on 4G LTE
Up to 14 hours on Wi€‘Fi

Wireless video playback:
Up to 13 hours
Wireless audio playback:
Up to 40 hours


Of course all these depend on what you're doing and I doubt most aren't just doing one thing all day long.
Play a few high end tyope games and they really eat into the battery life.

As for charging it might be useful to know how long it takes to charge from 0-60% or any other figure but to me it's rather like having a 0-60 time for a car which is only of limited use.

It's not limited, I use the 0-60 time every time I pull out of a junction.

So limited then if thats the only time you use it.

I didn't say only. Every time I accelerate and nobody is in front of me..

So did you base your choice of car on the 0-60 time then ?

That was one of the considerations.

So there were others then ... number of seats, top speed, number of doors, colour ?

All apart from the colour, yes.

Anyway, if I want to change the battery, it's handy to see the Ah and voltage on the back of it so I can get the right one to replace it.

In most phones and even laptops now you can't change the battery.

Bull****. You mean they don't want you to change it. Anything can be opened.

and anything can be damaged.
With yuor skills of size judgement and distance I doubt you;d get the right one anyway.

I've never failed to open a device without breaking it.

I made that decision when they launched the Mac Classic. Far too big to use for a doorstop, people fall over them.

You fall over just about anything. Maybe a Mac classic would be too big for your feet to miss it, but as you say so are door frames.

I just don't like confined spaces.

Mac classics are quite confined and a small footprint, far smaller than PCs of the time.

Yip, another reason they were useless. Tiny screen.

a 9 inch screen tiny, most phones are less than half that.

Which is why I use a phone to call and text, not use the internet or write a Word document.

Most of those shipped went to landfill anyway, they never got put into use.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...es-phones.html

That's BROKEN ones.

They weren't broken before they were shipped that's the point.

They were in the article. They're talking about recycling unwanted ****ed up stuff that would have gone in a landfill here before they invented recycling.

Anyway, I've seen plenty pictures of Indians dismantling circuit boards to get the capacitors, gold, etc.

companies chareg us from between £300 - £1500 a tonne from what I heard to pack and ship them, that's how they made theri money NOT through genune recycling.

We were charged £20 an item. So I gave away or sold stuff, and if that failed, I just threw it in the landfill skip.

So what happened to the £20 per item PCs how do you know they are still working ?

What? I don't care what they're doing, they're given to other people.

The 50 or so PCs we had I had to take the HDs out of so all the PC had no HD and hence no OS.

I simply removed any data, or reformatted and reinstalled the OS.

You should be carful throwing out macs they have a far better resale value that the majority of same age PCs do.

I put the coloured translucent Imacs on ebay actually. £40 each in about 2009. And you couldn't hurl those ones, the handles were too flimsy.

Yes those handles were really meant to carry the imac without supporing it from underneath, there was a small trade in those imacs as cat baskets.

Stupid design. I often carried two.

why do that ?

20 of them to take from one end of the corridor to the other. 10 trips or 20? Easy decision. Although I'd often wait till breaktime and grab a load of kids to carry them.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eHEoDuy66XM

I wonder why that video got thumbs downs?

pretty shaky video and for doing stuff like that it wouldn't have been too much effort to have a steady camera do the filming.

Only slightly shaky. Youtube can remove that anyway.

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