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On 09/04/17 14:20, Brian Gaff wrote:
Like many stores they tend to stock items made by
others,
and
if
the
quality
drops often they never notice till enough tell
them.
They are not alone in this Ring garden lights got
taken
over
and
every
since their lights are absolute crap.
Brian

Is that the same Ring as automotive accessories?
Those
seem
to
get
poor
press on Amazon.

Yup. All made in China. Warehouse near Leeds.

But most electrical equipment is made in China, is it
not?
My
new
mobile is made in China. I expect if I bought an
iPhone
it
would
be
made in China too. Much as I would like to support
UK
manufacturing,
I think the days of saying goods made in China are of
poor
quality
are
long gone.

Try buying the cheap Chinese stuff on Ebay. I've got
rechargeable
batteries here which have 20% of their rated capacity.
The
chargers
work though.

I'm not saying there is no tat made in China; I'm
saying
not
all
that
is made in China is tat.

Every single Chinese Li-Ion battery is tat.

Not the ones that Apple uses.

Aren't the good ones made in Japan?

The originals certainly arent.

And have you tested the actual capacity of an Apple
battery?

Not possible no capacity is listed on the originals.

You bought something without any specs?!

The battery came with the device.

It should have a capacity on it.

No point when its built in to what you buy.

Handy to know how long it lasts and takes to charge.

Sure, but there are a lot more other variables involved
in that than just the capacity of the battery.

One. The current from the charger.

Not with how long it lasts and how long it takes to
charge depends on what you are doing with it when
its being charged.

Yes but you can make a rough estimate. Without the capacity of the
battery you'd have no idea.

You time it. Vastly better than trying to estimate
it using a claimed battery capacity which you can't
even see when it's a non removable battery.

Can't do that before purchase.

You can see what reviewers have found for free.

When I have a product in my hand,

You don't with a device with a built in battery.

Open it and take the battery out, then look at the battery.

Useless approach when replacing the battery with chinese ****.

Who mentioned chinese ****?

I want to know what battery to replace it with.

Another one from the same manufacturer when its built
in. What the original says is the capacity is irrelevant.

Only fools buy original manufacturer's parts.

If you don't want to, you are free to buy the new battery
from operations like ifixit and don't need to know the
battery capacity, they have already worked that out for you.

I prefer to know what I'm putting where.

Leaves having a capacity stamped on it where you can't read it for
dead.

Why wouldn't I be able to read it?

Because you have to disassemble the device to get it out.

Don't you have screwdrivers in Australia?

You need more than just a screwdriver.

And other basic implements.

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