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On Thursday, April 6, 2017 at 7:57:22 PM UTC-4, Diesel wrote:
trader_4
Thu, 06
Apr 2017 20:04:16 GMT in alt.home.repair, wrote:

On Thursday, April 6, 2017 at 1:00:49 PM UTC-4, Diesel wrote:
trader_4
Thu,
06 Apr 2017 14:52:31 GMT in alt.home.repair, wrote:

On Thursday, April 6, 2017 at 2:45:58 AM UTC-4, Diesel wrote:
trader_4

Tue, 04 Apr 2017 15:34:34 GMT in alt.home.repair, wrote:

IDK of any browser company that is still doing updates of
any browsers for XP.

You must not know much about the subject, then. Firefox will
still support XP until 2017. And firefox isn't exactly a
'niche' browser.


You must not know much about calendars, it's already 2017.

Nice try.


Nice try at what? It is in fact already 2017.


Last time I checked, it was still April.

Do you know what ESR means?

https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefo...nizations/faq/

But, you specifically wrote that you didn't know of any
browser company still doing updates for XP, and, obviously,
that's not true. September is still a few months away, too.


What I wrote is true. Firefox has announced end of support and
they are only doing *security updates* for 5 more months. That
means they aren't going to do bug fixes, compatibility fixes. In
my world, that means it's no longer being supported. From
Mozilla:


security updates, ARE infact, updates.



They are just one part of normal product updates during a product's
lifecycle. Security updates are not bug fixes, improvements, changes
made to keep things compatible with new web softwar, to support
new features, etc.
Security updates are the LAST part of a product's life. And again,
Mozilla has said that security updates will end in just FIVE months.
So, again, WTF is your point? The context here was upgrading a
system now to use FOR THE FUTURE. Five months of security updates
and then even that support ends, that is reassuring, a path
you recommend users be on? Good grief!



Regardless. So, what you
wrote isn't true. Your personal opinion aside.


It's absolutely true. Here again from Mozilla:

"Important - Firefox is ending support for Windows XP and Vista
Firefox version 52 will be the last complete update for Windows XP and Windows Vista. Security updates will be released, but no new features.
Why is Firefox support ending for Windows XP and Vista users?

Firefox is one of the only browsers to offer any support for Windows XP and Vista. Microsoft itself ended support for Windows XP in 2014 and will end support for Windows Vista in 2017. Unsupported operating systems receive no security updates, have known exploits, and can be dangerous to use, which makes it difficult to maintain Firefox on those versions."


And right there Mozilla says what I said, that IDK of any browser that
is still supporting XP. You want to argue that contrary to what M
clearly says, they are indeed still "supporting" it because they are
still offering security updates for another 5 months. So, based on
that and in the context of this thread, you think counting on using
Firefox on an XP system you are about to invest in for the future is
smart?




That's directly from Mozilla, so, WTF is your point? That a
browser that is not being supported with updates other than for
security fixes and that only for 5 months, is a browser that one
should plan on using for the future?


I thought my point was self explanatory.


Yes, your point was that it's not 2017 and that Firefox is still
fully supported on XP and a wise choice for the future.



https://blog.mozilla.org/futurerelea...-xp-and-vista/

n approximately March, 2017, Windows XP and Vista users will
automatically be moved to the Firefox Extended Support Release
(ESR).

Firefox is one of the few browsers that continues to support Windows
XP and Vista, and we expect to continue to provide security updates
for users until September 2017. Users do not need to take additional
action to receive those updates. In mid-2017, user numbers on
Windows XP and Vista will be reassessed and a final support end date
will be announced.

Mozilla hasn't set September 2017 for EOL XP/Vista users in stone,
yet. things are still subject to change, based on the amount of
XP/vista users still using those oses with firefox ESR releases.


And again, you see that as something the poster who's upgrading an
XP system for the future should hang his hat on to use as a browser?
This is about as dumb as it gets.