On Sat, 25 Mar 2017 23:09:23 -0500, Leon lcb11211@swbelldotnet
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On 3/25/2017 2:22 PM, wrote:
On Sat, 25 Mar 2017 11:16:47 -0500, Leon lcb11211@swbelldotnet
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On 3/24/2017 7:09 PM, wrote:
On Fri, 24 Mar 2017 17:40:09 -0500, Leon lcb11211@swbelldotnet
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On 3/24/2017 8:14 AM, wrote:

Yep - the bullet holes were put there by the owner.
and he saved one for himself.

haha

apparently and believe or not they are sought after

in good condition they even get a pretty good price

That's because one in good condition has always been exceedingly rare,
even when they were new (owned a '71 Gremlin - the most appropriately
named car in history).

I worked for a short time for an AMC dealer back in '72, and they were
actually pretty good cars when compared to products from GM. Ford, and
Chrysler at the same time. One big problem with the gremy and hornet
was the latch pins breaking out of the doorposts after the hinge pins
wore out or sagged.. They had pretty well solved the rocker arm oiling
issue on the 232 by that time. The 258 was a better motor for the car
- and the 340 was AWSOME. There was a dealer in Mesa Arizona that put
the 401 AMX engine in the Grem. - Randall Motors XR401.
There were quite a few 360s transplanted into Grems too -
They were HAIRY!!!!


My brother had "The Machine" when we were teenagers.
It was geared so low that I could accidently take off in 3rd gear
when being a careful designated driver - feathering the clutch
because I wasn't accustomed to the car .. half way through
the intersection I would realize that I didn't need to shift quite
yet. :-)

I had a 72 Vega GT. I'll wait for the laughing to stop. ;!)

From a stop I could spin the tires starting in second gear.

Not with the stock aluminum 4 cyl unless you are running real skinny
tires at high pressure. Even a Cosworth would be stresses to get much
rubber in second with decent tires.

Yes with the stock 4 banger, A70-13 Firestones. Well there were 2
versions of the stock Vega engine. One had a different cam. Still
about 92 HP.

Because of the coil springs in the back I got all kinds of wheel hop if
I was not careful.

If you start with enough enough RPM's you could easily spin the tires.



And take out the clutch, u-joints, diff, or rear axles if you did it
too often. And A-70 13s were skinny tires

Skinny by today's standards, but most small American cars back then had
A78-13 tires. Still the same width but taller and less responsive to
handling




- I ran c70s on my 63
valiant and on my (don't die laughing) Pontiac Firenza (Vauxhaull HC
Magnum). The a 70 is equivalent to a 165-70 p metric tire - I call
them "bicycle tires" or "Roller skate wheels" A C70 was the same as a
215 p-metric and actually filled out the fender-wells a bit -
particularly on the F'renza with vega or chevette GT wheels (6 inch
width instead of the 4.5 or 5 inch Vauxhall rims)



IIRC about 6" for "A". A "C" was about 6.5", still pretty narrow.
The 70 did not make tires wider but made them "look" wider. Same is true
for 60, 50, etc series tires. You probably know that the number after
the letter represented the height of side wall to tread width ratio.

Old VW tires were 5.60-15's. Really narrow looking.
But the C was a lot wider than an A, and a C 70 was about the same
diameter as an A78.
And that wasn't an "old" volhswagen tire. An "old" VW beetle had 16
inch rims - with 500X16 tires. (I owned a '49 splitwindow beetle)