On 1/6/2017 8:10 PM, T wrote:
On 01/03/2017 08:37 PM, Muggles wrote:
On 1/3/2017 7:52 PM, T wrote:
On 12/31/2016 10:04 PM, Muggles wrote:
On Fri, 30 Dec 2016 20:41:15 -0800, T wrote:
authority of the Church) to make sure we know what
things are suppose to mean.


The Bible says we're to study for ourselves, so we know if what others
are trying to teach us is true or not. No church or denomination has
the
authority to supersede what the Bible says. That includes putting a
denominational spin on how they want to interpret scripture, too.
The Church is the body of Christ, not a building or special group of
people who claim they are the originals.


The writing authority was the First Council at Nicaea. No authority,
no Bible. You should not accept any teaching unless it has "authority"
to go with it.

The authority of the Nicaea Council ended when the content of the book
was decided upon.

Actually, councils can decide on anything they want. It is
nullified if it is not accept by the member in general.

We are told that each and every one of us is to study
(2 Timothy 2:15)

Do your best to present yourself to God as one
approved, a worker who does not need to be ashamed
and who correctly handles the word of truth.

I am not seeing your point.

"Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to
be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth."

We're supposed to study the word ourselves and be able to "rightly
dividing the word of truth" ourselves, not be dependent on someone else
to understand what it means.

for ourselves, and we're supposed to hold those people
accountable who teach us. All too often those in leadership abuse their
positions and manipulate the people they are charged with to teach. Too
many trusting people get damaged and hurt because they haven't studied
for themselves, and instead, trusted someone else to do the work for
them.


Very true. That is why we need a trusted authority. The councils
are a good start.

They are fallible.


If you doubt who the "originals" are, read your church history.


No offense, but I don't really care who the "originals" are, and I don't
think it matters.


No authority, no Bible. It should matter a great deal to you.

Authority comes from God - not councils.

Being an "original" has never been a criteria for
following Christ. I want to know how a person lives out their beliefs
in Christ, now.


And that is what it is all about.


Something, we agree on!

--
Maggie