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On Thu, 29 Dec 2016 08:08:11 -0500, "J. Clarke"
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In article sr096cpmspgji91m8qmi8m9oa5ichkh7q1@
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On Wed, 28 Dec 2016 22:25:51 -0500, "J. Clarke"
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In article 9vt86c97sippsgqrhp8nu3haod2ootolmi@
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On 29 Dec 2016 02:28:40 GMT, Puckdropper
puckdropper(at)yahoo(dot)com wrote:

Jack wrote in news
On 12/28/2016 1:41 AM, Bill wrote:

Recently my daughter and her husband were playing gin, and she pulled
out her cell phone to keep score. I asked what she was using to keep
score and she said Excel... I said isn't that over kill, she said it
was easy and didn't have a pencil and paper handy...

PC's (aka cell phones) are killing windows. None of my kids have
desktop computers, they have old lap tops they rarely to never use.

Bad UI is kiling Windows. Cell phones are taking over because the
experience is usually much better.

I disagree with that completely. I can't imagine Sketchup on a phone.
Phones are great as always-with-me devices but they don't in any way
replace a decent display, keyboard, lots of memory, and processing
power.

Cell phones have remarkable processing power--
they're solidly into '70s supercomputer
territory--but desktops today are real
monsters--if you know how to use it any decent
gamer rig can turn out trillions of operations a
second.


70s supercomputers didn't have multi-gigabit-per-second graphics
interfaces. That takes CPU, as well as GPU, power.


So?


You're the one who equated a '70s supercompuer to a cell phone. I'm
pointing out that that's a false comparison.

It seems to have escaped your notice that a
modern GPU can be used for purposes other than
showing pretty pictures on a screen. In fact
the manufacturers of those GPUs sell different
versions of them that eliminate the video
components completely that are intended to be
used as computation engines.


No, it hadn't escaped my notice but it's completely irrelevant.

But the screen real estate is the real
kicker--
if I want to spend a thousand bucks I can have
20 square feet of screen real estate and all of
it sharp.


For low values of "sharp". You can't drive much higher resolution
than 4K with current hardware.


That would be news to nvidia. All their version
10 boards handle 7680 x 4320.

My wife bought herself a computer, I later discovered it was not
really a computer, it was a giant cell phone w/o the phone part
(Nextbook I think it is), with a detachable keyboard. It runs on the
Android OS. The closest thing to a computer she has is an Ipad, that
also runs on a Unix based OS. She also has a Kindle (also
Android/UNIX). She sits around all day with her cell phone, Nextbook,
Ipad, and Kindle all hooked up to the internet, playing games, and
buying crap. All are based on UNIX not DOS/Windows. Yep, Window is
about over, and the sooner the better as it has always been, and still
is, garbage.

There was a quote from Bill Gates I came across a few months ago:
"Microsoft is always 2 years from being out of business." He knew if he
didn't keep the company innovating and at least producing usable stuff,
they'd be gone really fast. Too bad has successor doesn't seem to
understand that... We might not have a Microsoft soon. (As bad as M$ can
be, Apple and Google are worse.)

Certainly innovation is the key to survival but (at least) one of
these companies is going to surive.

The worrisome thing is that it might be Google,
whose philophy seems to be "all your data are
belong to us"--somebody sent me an email
confirming an appointment the other day and
Google managed to extract the details and add
them to my calendar without my asking, which is
cool as Hell from one viewpoint but scary as all
getout from another.


M$ isn't any different, if you believe their EULA.


Microsoft doesn't snoop every search you make on
the Internet and then fill your screen with ads
based on the stuff you searched.


You don't know that and their EULA makes them the *OWNER* of
everything you do. I know pwople who can't run Windows because of
legal restrictions are contrary to the M$ EULA. The same people don't
use Google, for the same reasons.

Same, same.

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Like I said, Windows used to be really really good. Windows 7 is
fantastic in terms of UI, it's set the standard for many UIs and then
Microsoft screwed everything up completely.

So far (a week), I've found Win10 to be acceptable (too early to tell
more). It seems to have taken the best (very little) of Win8 and
grafted it onto Win7. It's much smoother with a touchscreen than Win7
but functions in a similar manner.

And works well without a touchscreen.


Not sure what your point is, above. A touchscreen is another,
valuable, tool. It's almost as useful as it is on a phone. The
difference is that a phone is useless without it.


Windows 8 didn't work well without a
touchscreen.


I didn't think it worked well with a touchscreen. It's always
blocked. Either way, Win8 was a loser. Win10 seems to be much more
robust.

Windows 10 does. Our work laptops
have touchscreens. Nobody uses them.


I've used a touch screen on my home laptops for five years and
wouldn't give it up (on a laptop). I'm not sure I'd use it on a 27"
workstation screen (even connected to a laptop), mainly because it
would be beyond my reach. I sure would use it on a work laptop but my
CPoE doesn't buy them. The laptops they buy are pretty lame. The
whole IT department is worse than lame.