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Frank Baron Frank Baron is offline
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Default Question about breaking the bead using a harbor freight bead breaker?

On Thu, 15 Dec 2016 00:12:26 -0500, advised:

You don't have a CLUE how I buy my tires or what "thought" goes into
them - and I most certainly would NOT buy tires based primarily on
price.


Buying tires is both easy and hard, depending on what criteria you use.

If you read the reviews, you'll go nuts, because they're extremely
inconsistent, and most are from buttmeters which haven't been calibrated
and all suffer from the placebo effect. So reviews are absolutely useless
because only 1 in 100 will be accurate.

There's not much else to go by except UTQG and we all know how government
standards are. But as flawed as it is, it's the best there is.

So I buy tires based on only three things:
1. Fitment (e.g., a 108T is generally better than a 102S)
2. UTQG (never less than Traction A and Temperature A for example)
3. Price (lower is better)

Lotsa people buy tires based on superstition and warranty and brand name,
which they're welcome to do. Some even buy them based on the sidewall
stripe. All the power to them. Not me.

You are being a prick again - it is not becoming.


I apologize.
You have to realize though, that I'm sick and tired of tired old cliches.
They're fun, like poetry is fun; but they are nearly meaningless.

For example, all the dumb****s on the planet say 'you get what you pay for'
which is ridiculous. You get whatever it is that you get. How much you pay
for it is meaningless to what it is that you get. It would be the same
thing if you got it for free as if you mortgaged your house for it. Price
is never an indication of quality. Only dumb****s think it is because price
is *easy* to measure whereas quality is a lot harder (sometimes) to
measure.

So, for example, if I have a UTQG tire of 400/A/A and it is, say, $100,
where it's a 102S tire, of a certain size, that's a *better* deal than,
say, a 400/A/B tire which is the same load range and size for, say, $200.

I don't care that one is a brand name, or that it has sidewalls, or that
the warranty is whatever it is, or that they say the tread is quiet or that
they say it wicks away water, etc.

BTW, if I *knew* that the tread was quiet, or that it wicked away water
better, then *that* would be an indicator of quality; but what they *say*
is almost always bull**** so it can't be trusted (but should be taken into
account if it is trusted).

You snot-nosed little punk - You have not listened to a word I've
said. I thought for a few minutes I may have misjudgesd you -to
harshly. I take it back.


I apologize. I said in a previous post that I'm gonna be nicer.

YOu are NOT willing to learn - and I doubt your level of automotive
knowledge and experience will EVER approach that of any of they guys
on this list - or particularly guys like myself who have done this
professionally - for a living, for longer than you have been alive.


Actually, I'm pretty smart. I have very high degrees and I test well (at
least I did when I was in graduate school). But I'm not an automotive
mechanic. I studied the biological sciences. They are a far cry from this
stuff, but the one thing I can handle is data. Lots and lots of data.

The way I learn is by doing experiments and then looking up bits of data.

I'm surprised you actually assimilated enough to figure out how to put
it all together and get the job done. You are definitely not making
yourself any friends - - -


Well, I'm different than most people.
Most people are afraid to admit they made a mistake.
I don't care one bit about admitting I made a mistake.
And I made plenty of mistakes when I changed that tire and the one today.
Mistakes are part of learning.

What I could have done (which many people do) is write up this idealistic
DIY that assumes I didn't make any mistakes (such as bending the
bead-breaking wedge). I could easily have written it all up so that it
looks like I'm a genius.

But I write what happened and I'm not in the least trying to impress
anyone.

I just ask questions and if I don't get answers, I find them out on my own
(if possible). That's all I'm doing here.